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Rush Limbaugh in pill probe
New York Daily News ^ | 10/02/03 | TRACY CONNOR

Posted on 10/02/2003 1:21:45 AM PDT by kattracks

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To: SpinyNorman
Think about an earache you might have had, even as a child, and then think about what Rush had done to him with the cochlear implant.

Someone asked about getting painkillers for ear pain. I am the ear infection queen. I seem to get them every 12-24 months, usually in both ears at the same time. Anyway, I had a very bad pair of ear infections around Christmas of last year that kept me out of work for about 2 weeks. The dr.'s prescribed me Vicoden for the pain. There is no way I would have been able to sleep otherwise. I had to take 2 to go to sleep initially, then when they wore off I woke up (because of the pain) and took one more. During the day I would just take motrin. That's just with ear infections, I can't imagine how ear surgery would feel.

They made me sort of paranoid when I was feeling better. One night out of habit I took two, but really could have just used one. I couldn't sleep for the longest time, because I was convinced that people were trying to break into our house.

181 posted on 10/02/2003 7:09:19 AM PDT by retrokitten (Welcome to the real world, hippy!- Homer Simpson)
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To: I still care
And frankly, I never heard Rush moralizing about people being drug addicts. (The left loves to act like he does, but he really doesn't).

I agree to some extent in that I just don't give a rats behind when I read or hear about another entertainer with a drug problem. Their life, their choice. Deal with it. However, assuming the reports are true -- and that is nothing but an assumption at this point -- Rush has been quite vocal over the years about Bill and Roger Clinton and their nose problem. If the reports are true, then this is just another example of intellectual dishonesty.

182 posted on 10/02/2003 7:10:30 AM PDT by Labyrinthos
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To: TheDeacon
"cochlear implant surgery two years ago."

I thought it was more recent than that? Or am I thinking of when they turned it on (I understand there is a delay). But I remember him "sounding" better (his voice was very high pitched when he couldn't hear) earlier this year.


183 posted on 10/02/2003 7:15:19 AM PDT by NotQuiteCricket (http://www.strangesolutions.com)
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To: Darnright
People with this sort of drug use can barely function. Rush Limbaugh is amazingly adept at running a very successful radio commentary, which requires a lot of preparation and research, to stay on top of the current political events.

Not true my friend. The tolerence for this particular drug (and its close relative, Vicodin), builds fast, and as it does, the high diminishes. The physical addiction, remains, however, and if you fail to feed that addiction, the withdrawl can be quite uncomfortable. The perfect example is methadone, which keeps withdrawl in check without the opiate high, and as a result, many methadone users are able to live relatively normal lives as long as they get their daily fixes.

184 posted on 10/02/2003 7:16:27 AM PDT by Labyrinthos
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To: SpinyNorman
I have to admit, I found the stories about Hillary and Bill to be hilarious, but even though I despise both, I never once thought any of the Enquirer stories were true.

I beleive the story about Monica's blue dress with Bill's deposit splashed across the front was first reported in the Enquirer.

185 posted on 10/02/2003 7:20:06 AM PDT by Labyrinthos
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To: kattracks
Is it even possible to put things under your mattress if you have a Sleep Number bed?? Wierd story indeed.
186 posted on 10/02/2003 7:24:54 AM PDT by Andrewksu
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To: PatrioticAmerican; dyno35
No, it is not illegal, 'cept in Fairyland, er, Maryland.

And your name is Tripp...

187 posted on 10/02/2003 7:26:25 AM PDT by an amused spectator
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To: DoktorLaw
"Republicans of a more socially conservative persuasion may be less forgiving. And, frankly, they should be. One thing you have to admire about the social conservatives is their morally principled stances. If they support the War on Drugs generally, I suppose they are more or less obligated not to give dispensation to Rush on the drug issue simply because, in every other respect, he is a good man. Just some early thoughts. I haven't had my coffee yet. (I guess you could call that my drug problem."

First of all, IF any of this is true Rush should not get a pass. He should be proscuted and his clean criminal record will help him to avoid jail. The reason he needs to be proscuted is to save his life. IF he is that severely addicted he needs a powerful stick, like random drug testing, to keep him on the wagon. He tried on his own, and it didn't work.
188 posted on 10/02/2003 7:29:07 AM PDT by Theyknow
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To: Littlejon
From a Q&A on Oxycontin: 4. Are there any activities that I should not perform while using OxyContin for pain relief? OxyContin may interfere with your ability to do certain things that require your full attention. You should not drive a car, operate heavy machinery, or do other possibly dangerous activities while taking OxyContin. Now, if someone were taking, say even 4-6 of these babies per day, how could that person possibly go on the radio every day and do what Rush does, like respond to idiot libs who call in? Of course, we will all know soon enough, but to suggest someone could function day in and day out with this many chemicals streaming through your body & still put together complete sentances is laughable at best.

You know nothing about the way this drug is abused. Please read my post No. 81. And let me add this, as the tolerance for the drug builds, an addict needs more and more, not necessarily just to get high, but to ward off the severe discomfort caused by withdrawl. In other words, a person could be doing a lot of this stuff -- without appearing stoned or spaced out -- just to prevent the withdrawl symptoms, which would probably be more obvious than the effects of taking the drug.

189 posted on 10/02/2003 7:29:27 AM PDT by Labyrinthos
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To: RightOnGOP
IT IS NOT STRANGE. THIS IS WAR. THE DEMS ARE LOSING, BUT WILLING TO DO ANYTHING. THIS IS NOT A COINCIDENCE.

Exactly. And we are still in the character assassination mode.

My novel is about the next stage.

190 posted on 10/02/2003 7:32:50 AM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: sethhenschon
You'll be listening to his rebuttal??? I'll be listening to his apology...
191 posted on 10/02/2003 7:57:56 AM PDT by jjbrouwer (Chelsea for the Champions League!)
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To: MinuteGal
Did the "left" make Limbaugh buy those pills or spit his racist venom? No. He is a big boy now. Unlike you, I haven't been listening to him for 14 years.

I've only heard his rantings for a year - and on the occasions I have, I have felt like I needed some of his painkillers. He always sounds like the kind of nutter you wouldn't want to sit next to you on a bus. The pills can't help him much.

192 posted on 10/02/2003 8:02:31 AM PDT by jjbrouwer (Chelsea for the Champions League!)
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To: kattracks
And what about the DOCTORS and PHARMACISTS who GAVE those pills to the "housekeeper"?? Shouldn't THEY be INVESTIGATED???

Any bets that this woman was put up by the DEMONCRATS to find a job with Rush????

193 posted on 10/02/2003 8:06:05 AM PDT by Ann Archy
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To: Ann Archy
The drugs Rush Limbaugh is accused of abusing are legal only with a doctor's prescription. All are habit-forming.

- Hydrocodone

Anti-cough agent and painkiller similar to morphine. Side effects include anxiety, poor mental performance, emotional dependence, drowsiness, mood changes, difficulty breathing and itchiness.

- Lorcet

Brand name for the combination of Tylenol and hydrocodone, prescribed for moderate to severe pain. Side effects include dry mouth, nausea, vomiting, decreased appetite, dizziness, tiredness, muscle twitches, sweating and itching.

- OxyContin

Potent time-release medication for relief of moderate to severe pain, known as hillbilly heroin because of black-market popularity in some rural areas. Side effects include drowsiness, dizziness, sweating, muscle twitches and decreased sex drive. A large dose can be fatal.

He always looks okay on the dittocam to me.

As far as the decreased sex drive --- I have no clue 'bout that...nor do I wanna know..... ;-)

194 posted on 10/02/2003 8:19:27 AM PDT by b4its2late (Warning: Dates in Calendar are closer than they appear.)
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To: WillowyDame
I don't get her going to the cops, since she would be the drug dealer! Wouldn't she have been committing a crime too? Did she get close to being busted and turned herself in? Is she making a deal with prosecutors to keep from going down herself? Where has she been obtaining these drugs for Rush after her hubby's prescription ran out? What about those people?

Hmm... something sounds weird here
195 posted on 10/02/2003 8:22:32 AM PDT by Lanza
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To: b4its2late
I am unaware of any investigation by any authorities involving me. No governmental representative has contacted me directly or indirectly. If my assistance is required in the future, I will, of course, cooperate fully."
-Rush Limbaugh

From Rushs' website. What do you make of it?
196 posted on 10/02/2003 8:23:07 AM PDT by Hawkeye Boss
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To: Labyrinthos
The Enquirer also broke the Jesse Jackson love child story that was VERY true.

I remember Brit Hume joking with a panel during that time that the Enquirer was becoming the "paper of record."
197 posted on 10/02/2003 8:26:21 AM PDT by Lanza
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To: kattracks
While Wilma Cline hasn’t shown up on the radar until now – (The AP wire issued the story in several forms a total of 56 times in the last day) – Ed Shohat is absolutely no stranger of the headlines. A quick dig turns up associations with none other than Janet Reno, F. Lee Bailey, Colombian drug lord Carlos Lehder, drug lords Willie Falcon and Sal Magluta, international drug trafficker Claude Duboc and a host of other unsavory characters. Occasionally he’s been involved in some Missing Persons cases but it appears the majority of his work has been defending druglords and corrupt government officials. Makes one wonder how a housekeeper hooked up with him in the first place………

The Miami Herald September 10, 2000

Accused drug lords Willie Falcon and Sal Magluta used more than $25 million in drug profits to pay fees to a dream team of defense lawyers - some of whom accepted cash stuffed in envelopes or checks from phantom benefactors with offshore accounts, according to evidence introduced at a federal conspiracy trial in Miami.

The team of 39 lawyers included such well-known names as Roy Black, Albert Krieger, Ed Shohat and Frank Rubino - considered among the sharpest minds in the national defense bar……

….* Shohat, who once represented Colombian cartel leader Carlos Lehder and prominent local officials such as former Miami city manager Cesar Odio and former Miami-Dade County Commissioner James Burke, testified that he stood dumbfounded in his office one day when an unidentified man dropped a briefcase stuffed with $150,000 cash on the floor and ran out the door.

"I tried to follow him, get him to come back, but I didn't succeed," Shohat said, adding that his client - another Falcon/Magluta codefendant named Victor Alvarez - "assured me after several discussions that the source of the funds was a loan to him from people unrelated to Sal Magluta and Willie Falcon."

Shohat said his client explained that the source of the money wished to remain anonymous so as not to get caught up in the case.

"So you don't know who paid your fees?" Sullivan asked.

"I have no idea," Shohat said. "Oh, I do have an idea. Victor Alvarez paid my fees, but with loan money."

The Associated Press . June 2, 2000, Friday

Bailey: Stock ownership wasn't questioned until value tripled By VICKIE CHACHERE, Associated Press Writer

Federal prosecutors showed no interest in stock F. Lee Bailey took from an international drug trafficker he was representing until the securities surged and Bailey received an enormous payment, the attorney said Friday.

Bailey stood to make about $18 million on the stock in a Canadian medical research company that international drug trafficker Claude Duboc turned over 21 months earlier when the stock was worth about $6 million.

Testifying in his own defense, Bailey said federal prosecutors showed no interest in the stock and gave it to him, only later to change their minds when the stock became so valuable.

"I trusted them, a fact for which I am terribly sorry today," Bailey said.

Bailey is trying to save his license to practice law in Florida. The Florida Bar has filed misconduct and misappropriation charges alleging he used the stock for himself when he was not free to do so.

The government contends the stock was forfeitable assets that shouldn't have gone to Bailey. He argues that he was given the stock as payment for his services to both Duboc and federal prosecutors who needed Bailey's expertise to get at Duboc's vast riches.

The hearing before Circuit Court Judge Cynthia Ellis is scheduled to conclude Monday. Ellis will issue a ruling in the case, but the Florida Supreme Court will have the final say on whether or Bailey should be disciplined.

The allegations against Bailey were brought by former colleague Ed Shohat, who became Bailey's rival for Duboc's business.

Sun-Sentinel (Fort Lauderdale, FL) January 9, 1999

QUINON ADMITS HERNANDEZ AFFAIR; LAWYER'S LIAISON WITH CLIENT'S WIFE COULD LEAD TO DISBARMENT JAY WEAVER; Miami Bureau

For the first time, lawyer Jose Quinon on Friday publicly confessed he had an affair with the wife of his client, ex-City Commissioner Humberto Hernandez, during his vote-fraud trial.

"There was a relationship," said attorney Jay Hogan, representing Quinon at a court hearing. "It lasted from the night of jury selection until the trial was over."

Citing the sex scandal between Monica Lewinsky and President Clinton, Hogan said: "I don't want an Esther-gate." He was referring to Esther Hernandez, 34, the wife of the convicted ex-Little Havana politician.

Humberto Hernandez, 36, is pressing to overturn his misdemeanor vote-fraud conviction in August, arguing that his wife's liaison with his attorney constituted a conflict of interest.

Miami-Dade Circuit Judge Roberto Pineiro set a Jan. 28 hearing to consider Hernandez's request for a new trial on charges he helped cover up tainted absentee ballots in the 1997 Miami election.

Esther Hernandez, a school teacher and mother of their two children, could not be reached for comment. But she told a reporter for The Miami Herald that she had an affair with her husband's prominent attorney during his high-profile trial.

Humberto Hernandez cited the newspaper article as justification for a new trial. But Assistant State Attorney Joe Centorino wants Pineiro to consider possible sworn statements from Esther Hernandez and Quinon before deciding on a new trial.

"We would be foolish to stipulate to something that would be in The Miami Herald," Centorino said.

Quinon's relationship with Esther Hernandez -- they were seen kissing during a Friday night happy hour at Senor Frog's in September, a few weeks after Hernandez was convicted on vote-fraud charges -- provoked the Miami branch of the state Bar to launch an ethics inquiry that might lead to his disbarment.

In October, a federal judge ordered Quinon, 48, to avoid all contact with Humberto Hernandez and to turn over all of his fees earned from representing him in his state vote-fraud trial and in his federal mortgage-fraud defense.

Quinon, who lives with his wife, Louise, and their three children in Coconut Grove, deposited about $ 235,000 in legal fees with the court.

That money is to be used by Hernandez's new attorney, Milton Hirsch, as he presses for a second trial. At the first trial, Pineiro sentenced Hernandez to one year in jail.

Today, Humberto Hernandez remains at the Federal Detention Center in Miami. And Quinon's once-brilliant career, built after 23 years of defending drug kingpins and crooked politicians, is in jeopardy.

Quinon has remained silent since his relationship with Esther Hernandez became public in October. But those who know him say they are baffled by a misstep that seems so out of character for the meticulous workaholic.

"I remain flabbergasted at the conduct, which has been admitted in court by another respected lawyer, Jay Hogan," said Ben Kuehne, president of the Miami-Dade County Bar Association. "It's troubling, because Jose has always been a tremendous lawyer and a fine model for the best of the law profession. This is professionally a stumble."

Born in Cuba, Quinon moved with his family to the United States in the summer of 1962. The family was processed through the Freedom Tower in Miami, and soon after moved to Paterson, N.J. Quinon earned his bachelor's degree at Seton Hall University in South Orange and his law degree from Rutgers University at Newark in 1975.

He immediately headed south to Miami, where he landed a job as a prosecutor in the major crimes division of the State Attorney's Office headed by Janet Reno. After four years there, he broke out on his own in 1983 -- the beginning of a criminal defense career that would eventually make him one of the most sought after lawyers in Miami.

In 1987, Quinon's tough, tactical skills in the courtoom won him a lucrative client -- Colombian drug lord Carlos Lehder. But he and fellow attorney Ed Shohat ended up losing what turned out to be a hopeless case.

Quinon was also one of the defense attorneys in the notorious Miami River cops-cocaine trafficking case during the late 1980s.

At the time, Quinon told a newspaper reporter that the appeal of defending drug dealers was "vicariously living lives that you only see in movies." His personal life, he said, was "so boring that it even bores me to talk about it."

198 posted on 10/02/2003 8:49:13 AM PDT by Range Rover (Karma is a boomerang...)
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To: Labyrinthos
I'm not sure. I would put cocaine in a different catagory than a problem with prescription painkillers, when one has a significant health problem.

Of course,if all the lurid stuff about forcing her to meet pushers in parking lots etc (I am not clear on this aspect of the story) is true that does make a difference. But I until I hear different I'm not sure I believe that. You can tell if someone lives stoned. He doesn't.

Being a person who deals with chronic pain, it's easy to take two instead of one, especially if you feel you need it, and then take an extra one for pain that isn't quite so bad, because you know you'll sleep through the night without being woken up by pain.

Fortunately, I am educated enough to know how dangerous a trap that is. But I can see how easily people fall into it. And I think it can be a different problem than recreation drug use.

199 posted on 10/02/2003 8:54:46 AM PDT by I still care
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To: #3Fan
$80,000 he owed her

For what? The pills?
And how/why would that woman or a dealer front for 80 grand? No way.
And where is this $120,000 he supposedly bribed her with?
And you wait to contact prosecutors til after the payoff..wazzup with the sudden crisis of conscience?
200 posted on 10/02/2003 9:14:25 AM PDT by visualops (Two Wrongs don't make a right- they make the Democratic Ticket for 2004!)
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