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Losing by Winning (George Neumayr)
American Prowler ^
| 10/1/2003
| George Neumayr
Posted on 09/30/2003 9:57:29 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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posted on
09/30/2003 10:28:27 PM PDT
by
DoctorZIn
To: nickcarraway
truth.
It's a wonderful thing.
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posted on
09/30/2003 10:29:48 PM PDT
by
TheAngryClam
(A proud member of the McClintock Militia)
To: TheAngryClam
Aye, I second that
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posted on
09/30/2003 10:32:35 PM PDT
by
thoughtomator
(Right Wing Crazy #5338526)
To: nickcarraway
why does the state Republican party exist at all? Why doesn't it just merge with the California Democrats? Then it could win every election.This idea will have obvious appeal for some people around here.
BUMP!
To: nickcarraway
An ordinary Republican, hearing House's comment, can reasonably conclude that the party stands for nothing except winning. In which case, why does the state Republican party exist at all? Why doesn't it just merge with the California Democrats? Then it could win every election. That's what I've been wondering.
If Schwarzenegger wins and governs like a Kennedy liberal -- a good bet -- McClintock could reemerge as his Republican primary opponent in 2006.
Yeah, and if for some reason Arnold thought he wouldn't get the nod, he could just switch to the dems where he belongs. An automatic victory for both of them. (the dems and Arnold.)
To: nickcarraway
A party that seeks victory for the sake of its principles can renew itself. But a party that abandons its principles for the sake of victory is hopelessly lost. One longtime California GOP activist, who has watched the party progressively lose its "brain and spine," likens the liberalization of the state party to the "Stockholm syndrome." California Republican leaders identify with their liberal captors while they view with hostility Republican rescuers like Tom McClintock.WOW!!! This baby is bookmarked.
George Neumayr can really write (and THINK).
To: Lancey Howard
One longtime California GOP activist, who has watched the party progressively lose its "brain and spine," likens the liberalization of the state party to the "Stockholm syndrome."It kinda makes you wonder if Stockholm might really be in Austria.
To: nickcarraway
In which case, why does the state Republican party exist at all? Why doesn't it just merge with the California Democrats?If they did, the Conservatives would no longer be part of a major party unless they went along with the rest of the GOP.
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posted on
09/30/2003 10:42:54 PM PDT
by
Consort
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To: nickcarraway

Since we lack the conviction and courage to beat the Democrats on principle, we will join them and endorse a de facto Democrat. < -snip- > The Richard Riordans and Gerry Parskys of the party call on conservatives to "be team players," though liberal Republicans rarely behave like team players when conservatives are running. McClintock will "pay a price" for remaining in the race, Republican leaders warn. What price will they pay for gutting the party of its principles?
Electoral revolt, starting with the Save Our License referendum next March.
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posted on
09/30/2003 10:50:38 PM PDT
by
Sabertooth
(No Drivers' Licences for Illegal Aliens. Petition SB60. http://www.saveourlicense.com/n_home.htm)
To: nickcarraway
This essay applies equally well to the national-level Republicrat Party which, once in power, has done nothing to even slow, much less reverse, the rapid expansion of a bigger, dumber, more expensive and more obnoxious government.
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posted on
09/30/2003 10:51:30 PM PDT
by
Hank Rearden
(Dick Gephardt. Before he dicks you.)
To: nickcarraway
The "McClintock can't win" line was bogus from the start. The recent USA Today poll shows that McClintock would win easily in a race against Cruz Bustamante. What the Republicans were really saying was not that McClintock can't win but that he shouldn't win. "McClintock scares the hell out of the Republican establishment, because he represents fundamental change and they don't want that,"This makes me wonder just how many enablers from the liberal California "Republican establishment" there are frequenting some of these threads? It makes sense for these elites to want a "victory" at any cost - - they get the cushy offices and the staffs and the cars and all the perks of power and priveledge. What do they care who the sugar daddy is?
But it seems more than a little suspicious that there are so many alleged freepers who are ready, willing, and able to cave on nearly every basic conservative principle.
To: Consort
If they did, the Conservatives would no longer be part of a major party unless they went along with the rest of the GOP. Well, as a conservative living in California, I'm not at all sure I am a part of a major party anymore. I don't know when it happened, but I think Al Davis now runs the GOP in CA.....
"JUST WIN BABY!"
To: Nathaniel Fischer
Victory is not the end, but the means to the end, which is the enactment of the party's platform.Yes, that is a great line, and especially relevant if the party has a platform, lol.
Here's another good line from the piece:
California Republican leaders have turned the means into the end, and thereby turned the party over to liberals.
To: nopardons
Hi, nopardons.
I wanted to ping you on this thread because I respect your opinion, If you have a chance to check this out, please let me know what you think.
Regards,
LH
To: nickcarraway
Bump.
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posted on
09/30/2003 11:01:53 PM PDT
by
ForOurFuture
(Both could beat Bustamante. Only one is conservative.)
To: Jim Robinson
This is an amazing piece, in my opinion.
To: Lancey Howard
I've read it, but if you want my opinion, I'll send it via FREEPmail, because unlike others, I don't burst onto threads to stir up a flame war, nor to disrupt.
Thank you for being interested in my opinion, though. It is thoughtout, based on facts & knowledge, and not mere feelings or daydreams.
FREEPmail me me, if you want the answer.:-)
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