To: w1andsodidwe
Let me be the first to say it "If only Arnold would drop out, then Tom could maybe get a few more votes". Polls indicate that had Arnold not entered, McClintock would have handily won over Cruz and California would have ended up with a conservative governor. Please see my tagline.
12 posted on
09/30/2003 8:05:24 PM PDT by
jmc813
(How ironic is it that Arnold turned out to be the spoiler?)
To: jmc813
Polls indicate that had Arnold not entered, McClintock would have handily won over Cruz and California would have ended up with a conservative governor. Please see my taglineAnd what are you drinking?
To: jmc813
Well, if only Clinton hadn't run, then GHWB would have gotten more votes.
18 posted on
09/30/2003 8:09:12 PM PDT by
Recourse
To: jmc813
Polls indicate that had Arnold not entered, McClintock would have handily won over Cruz and California would have ended up with a conservative governorDon't be silly. If Arnold had not entered the race Simon would still be in it and probably several others. We are lucky to have a guy who can actually win.
I for one am tired of losing in California and being screwed by the Democrats.
To: jmc813
Polls indicate that had Arnold not entered, McClintock would have handily won over Cruz and California would have ended up with a conservative governor. Oh really? If Arnold hadn't entered the race, then chances are, Issa or Simon would still be in the race and ahead of McClintock. Many Californians had never heard of McC.
36 posted on
09/30/2003 8:16:59 PM PDT by
CheneyChick
(www.JoinArnold.com - "Let's Bring Kah-lee-fohr-nya Back")
To: jmc813
Polls indicate that had Arnold not entered, McClintock would have handily won over Cruz and California would have ended up with a conservative governor. Please see my tagline.Sorry, but that won't fly. The dynamics of the entire recall election would have been radically changed if Arnold had not entered the race. For one thing I doubt there would have bene quite as much interest as there is (don't get me wrong, there still would have been LOTS of it) - the celebrity factor, like it or not, carries lots of weight. It's impossible to predict how the race would have turned out - it would be like trying to predict what the culture and climate of the state of California would have been like if it wasn't sitting next to the Pacific Ocean.
37 posted on
09/30/2003 8:17:04 PM PDT by
CFC__VRWC
(AIDS, abortion, euthanasia - don't liberals just kill ya?)
To: jmc813
With Arnold out, Davis would not be recalled. Thats the problem.
To: jmc813
Polls indicate that had Arnold not entered, McClintock would have handily won over Cruz and California would have ended up with a conservative governor. Besides the CNN/Gallup poll released last Sunday, which other polls do you have in mind?
Or did you mean to say "A poll indicate. . ."?
To: jmc813
Polls indicate that had Arnold not entered, McClintock would have handily won over Cruz and California would have ended up with a conservative governor
Baloney, had Arnold not entered, McClintock would be behind Issa, Riordan and Simon. But keep dreaming....
72 posted on
09/30/2003 8:45:17 PM PDT by
Central Scrutiniser
(Read about Tax Scam artists! www.quatloos.com)
To: jmc813
Polls indicate that had Arnold not entered, McClintock would have handily won over Cruz and California would have ended up with a conservative governor. Please see my tagline. Not a chance. Davis and Bustamante would have exploited your boys' ties to Christian Reonstructionism and the Christian far right and scared off every moderate voter. Only the staunchest of right wingers would have voted with McClintock. McClintock and Stoos have floated in under the radar thus far
To: jmc813
Polls indicate that had Arnold not entered, McClintock would have handily won over Cruz and California would have ended up with a conservative governor. No, the polls only show that Tom would get more votes than Cruz, neither with a majority. The fact is that the pro-recall figures only went sky high when Arnold's numbers did. That suggests that most people in the middle wouldn't vote for the recall if the only choices were Cruz and Tom. They were just holding back from deciding until they saw if Arnold looked up for the job. After the debate they decided he was. If not, they would just vote no on part one, and Davis would remain Governor.
91 posted on
09/30/2003 8:57:30 PM PDT by
Hugin
To: jmc813
Polls indicate that had Arnold not entered, McClintock would have handily won over Cruz and California would have ended up with a conservative governor.
Polls also indicate that had Eve NOT eaten from the forbiden fruit man kind would not have suffered from the original sin.
112 posted on
09/30/2003 9:27:42 PM PDT by
birbear
(I'll take Things Nobody Knows for $300, please, Alex.)
To: jmc813
Love your tag line and agree COMPLETELY with your post.!! ARnold in fact has been the spoiler for what could have been the BEST. TOM could win over CRUZ any day. Now we will be faced with abortions, gay marriages, funding lunches for illegal kids, and a strong supporter against Prop54!!! WOW what " Conservative" Republican agenda!!!!
To: jmc813
Polls indicate that had Arnold not entered, McClintock would have handily won over Cruz and California would have ended up with a conservative governor. This is simply not true. Polls indicate that if Arnold were to drop out sometime last week, Tom would beat Busty, but by a much lower margin than Arnold.
Arnold being in the recall has gotten press and raised awareness of the issues well beyond what a recall would have been like if only "professional politicians" had been running. Plus, in the debate, Arnold beat up Busty on the Indian gaming donations, an action Tom could not have taken, since his own hands are dirty on that one.
To: jmc813
Polls indicate that had Arnold not entered, McClintock would have handily won over Cruz and California would have ended up with a conservative governor. Please see my tagline.
I must have missed the poll you're talking about. Could you let me know the link? It would have been nice to see what Darrel, Bill, Tom and Peter would have been like head to head.
164 posted on
09/30/2003 11:08:43 PM PDT by
kingu
(84% of liberal likely voters think Tom should stay in the race until the end.)
To: jmc813
If Arnold were out of this race you would have a constant smear campaign against Tom. The usual ultrarightwingconservativeantichoicehomophobestoneageracist stuff. Tom's support would drop and fast and we'd have Gov. Cruz.
The only reason Tom has been spared the attack is that Gray/Cruz hopes to split the vote. Don't play into Gray/Cruz's plan: Vote Arnold. He's not the perfect R, but he's not a D.
198 posted on
10/01/2003 4:05:49 PM PDT by
Roarkdude
(no tag line entered)
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