'Free staters' pick New Hampshire to liberate for sex, guns and drugs

Guardian ^ | October 1, 2003 | Joanna Walters

[JerseyHighlander]

Who the heck leaked this, I was going to go to the announcement tomorrow just to see the spectacle. Now I already know the end of the movie.

(Or is it the beginning...)

[StormEye]

"A British member, Matthew Hurry, a 24-year-old computer technician from Brighton,
was already preparing to move to the chosen state. "It's one of the few good ideas I've
seen actually put into practice with a good chance of success. Freedom is important for
people, and the western world is severely lacking in it," he said.

What makes a foreigner like you think you can move to America and intrude
on our politcal landscape? Only Mexican foreigners are allowed to do that.

[Katya]

Geez...I felt confused for a moment, since they're not announcing until tomorrow. The guardian must have rooted someone out...since it's not like we had exit polling.

[Poohbah]

Well, I was in an exit poll just the other day!

I responded that I use the exit to leave a building.

[JerseyHighlander]

OK, I should adopt Lazamataz's tagline (posting without reading since 3/25/1999) Could you give the link to the actual thread where the Sorens stated so.

In all reality, there are thousands of men who can pick up and leave their lives in New England and Quebec and move to New Hampshire. Once UNH is known as FSP Uni, the sex and drugs crowd that goes to UV Burlington and other Vermont and Maine and Upstate Colleges will all in the future be headed for the FSP Uni's of NH. This (publicly funded higher-ed) has never been mentioned, to my knowledge.

I haven't signed up, but I already have friends and family who live or own property in NH or Western Maine just so they can live free. A decision of NH is anti-climatic, personally.

[Bonaparte]

Why am I reminded of the ill-fated "Children's Crusade"?

[Richard-SIA]

"Freedom is important for people, and the western world is severely lacking in it," he said."

And WHERE does he think freedom is greater?

[ETERNAL WARMING]

My best advice to the Staters:

Buy lots of long underwear and a good battery for the car.

It will take awhile for the natives to accept you.

Wages are basically low. Don't expect the good life. But for all that it is a very good life....like going back 20 years. It's still family oriented, they still discipline their children. They're basically good, salt of the earth types with a few real dussies thrown in...mostly Canadian migrants of 80 years ago.

I'm glad someone is going to stop the lefty direction that they state is sliding into. We can thank Massachusetts emigres for that. Lot's of cool Mass folks too...don't tar them all with the same brush.

I'm envious. I enjoyed living there.

[wafflehouse]

The reaction of longtime residents to a bunch of outsiders showing up and throwing their weight around in the political arena is one area that hasn't been examined at all.

'california' kinda sprang to mind..

[Eagle Eye]

Well, some of the FSP advocates--on and off Free Republic--haven't helped any.

You are certainly correct there. but that seems to be the case with any movement, there are those that don't fit in with the mainstream.

Bottom line: the FSP concept has some issues that have not been addressed, that can adversely impact the chances of success.

Of course. But there is also the 'analysis paralysis' angle on this. There is no way to iron out all the known variables, let alone the unknowns.

The reaction of longtime residents to a bunch of outsiders showing up and throwing their weight around in the political arena is one area that hasn't been examined at all. If it isn't handled with a lot of skill, the newcomers may discover that the pre-existing residents will oppose them out of sheer spite.

You have a good point, but one that is not without precident.

In Colorado there has been so many Californians move in that there were bumper stickers that said "De-Californiate Colorado". The inflated property values in CA allowed people to cash out, buy luxury homes in CO, inflate property valuse and the tax base, and then bitch about how 'back in CA...' they did this or that. These are the same people that buy country homes then bitch about the farm animals. These are the ones that leave a place then immediately try to recreate the conditions that made them leave in the first place.

In Florida, "We don't care how you did it up north". People frequently move in and make no attempt to fit in, but try to make others fit in to their ideas. Trust me, it wasn't the Southerners in Florida that voted to protect pregnant pigs but not pregnant humans.

I wish all FSP'ers well in their experiment and quest. I don't want to be compared to the naysayers that stood on the docks in England mocking the Pilgrims.

[StriperSniper]

C-SPAN said they will have a camera there for the announcement, 10:00AM BUMP.

[StriperSniper]

Looks like they are going to the House, on C-SPAN1, 2 has the Senate, and 3 has some taped program. I guess it will be taped.

[Dead Corpse]

We've got the same kind of "Californication" going on here in Austin, TX as well. Of course, Austin has always been a tad on the liberal side, but it has gotten downright ridiculous. The way taxes have been going up, it is actually becoming economicaly feasible for me to move back to high-tax Minnesota just to save money! Go figure.

[StriperSniper]

Free State Project Picks New Hampshire

(Official Press Release)

[Tribune7]

I wished they picked Delaware.

[StriperSniper]

I wished they picked Delaware.

Yup, much warmer, and you would be able to walk there. ;-)

[headsonpikes]

'Live Free or Die' is an excellent start!

[Tribune7]

:-)

[StriperSniper]

'Live Free or Die' is an excellent start!

Oh for sure! I'm not committed, for personal reasons at the momment, but by the time it really gets rolling, I should be able to get with the program. I have spent all of about one hour in NH, but I liked the people I met. I had to take a ride up there and back last year from Jersey. There was a bar/resturant next to the gas station so I popped in for a quick one before the return leg. At first I got some looks in the small town place when a stranger with a Joisey accent ordered a Sam, but ended up BS'ing about the local fishing scene wih a couple guys sitting next to me.

New Hampshire may not have as good a NASCAR track as Delaware, and the 'Stripuh' season is much shorter, but it was #2 on my personal list, and probably the best one for the goals.

[archy]

Those of us on the FSP *Porcupine ping list*, aka PorcuPing, haven't.

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