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To: going hot
your reluctance to answer

You asked about vetos. Tom won't have a veto if he isn't elected governor. You also asked about unspecified legislative proposals that did not pass. Where do you look those up?

Arnold's anti-gun agenda is clear. Keep trying to dodge it.

52 posted on 09/30/2003 2:30:26 PM PDT by Roscoe
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To: Roscoe
Arnold's anti-gun agenda is clear. Keep trying to dodge it.

He's probably just been burned by so many politicians that he's just a big cynic.

Too bad there aren't more "Cynics" in CA concerning policy that haven't been Venturaized enough or Bloombergized enough to understand what they are doing to themselves...


60 posted on 09/30/2003 2:40:30 PM PDT by PeoplesRep_of_LA (That's pre-election bogus, Arnold Schwarzenegger.)
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To: Roscoe
not trying to dodge anything.

My points are as follows:

In 20 years plus, he has the voting record,which in itself does not sway the legislation in this state.For that,you must either be in the majority or hold the executive branch reins.

Therefore,Tom Mclintock must actually win the plurality vote to become the governor, and THEN veto stuff.

He must also work with the deeply entrenched leftist legislature to get anything more than a veto to effect legislation. Simply vetoing stuff for four years may in itself appeal to many, it is not a well managed way to lead, and get things done.

Now, if Tom's supporters doubled, no doubt from arnold supporters, because I doubt any arriana or busty or comeho (sp) supporters will be won over to your side, he may have a chace to win, therefore exercise veto power. So,in effect, what you are asking, is for the front runner in the election, by substantial numbers,to drop out, so that a person who consistantly polls third may have a chance to win.

Do you seriously believe that your brand of political view is acceptable to the majority of voters in this state?

Would you like for me to show up at your door and force you to march down to the polls and vote my way or don't vote? How about if I call you a (fill in the blank)for disagreeing with me, then ask you to support my candidate,you know, the one that is polling a distant third,because almost 80% of the voting block do not wish to vote for him on one pretext or another,

You may have sufficient merit in your views,but wishes do not win elections.In this state,this October, I submit a great many voters, indeed the majority, do not see things the exact same way you do, and will vote accordingly.

Is it right or wrong? Does not matter.It will still happen that way.

How do you change it? Certainly not by belittleing those who disagree with you politically.

71 posted on 09/30/2003 3:25:21 PM PDT by going hot (Happiness is a momma deuce)
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To: Roscoe
Arnold's anti-gun agenda is clear.

He's anti 2nd Amendment while McClintock stands solidly with us for our gun rights. I can't believe the FReepers who are willing to give up their gun rights! Amazing!

Tom McClintock is the only pro life candidate in the running.

McClintock is the only one of the top contenders who has signed the Marriage Protection Pledge (marriage is between a man and a woman). Arnold refused to sign it.

Tom McClintock is supporting the CRA (California Republican Assembly) effort for a state ballot initiative to overturn drivers licenses for illegals.

I could go on and on. But you get the picture. No conservative in his/her right mind would even consider voting for Arnold Schwarznkennedy when we have a great conservative on the ticket - TOM McCLINTOCK! www.helptom.com

96 posted on 09/30/2003 4:05:28 PM PDT by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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