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More folks jumping on the bandwagon of lies looking to make a quick buck.
1 posted on 09/30/2003 12:32:00 PM PDT by Gabz
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To: Gabz
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!
Morons.

I smoked in my last house for over 30 years and sold it for 15% more than other houses in the neighborhood sold for. Preparing it cost me around $800, below average, I think.

67 posted on 09/30/2003 2:09:30 PM PDT by Publius6961 (californians are as dumb as a sack of rocks.)
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To: Gabz
Oh gee it would cost a few hundred dollars to fix the worst smoker's house.
90 posted on 09/30/2003 2:35:18 PM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (The big picture is missed by those who focus on pixels.)
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We bought a new construction in 1996 from a builder. We got there in time to pick out the carpet, but everything else was finished.

After we moved in, I noticed that if we closed up the house and were gone for a few hours, when we got back the house smelled like cigarette smoke. The BUILDERS smoked while framing and drywalling.

The stink stuck around for more than a year.

I chose not to stick around a smoking environment for very long, but as long as people smoke in their houses, they have to realize that it takes a toll in either the value of their home or in the costs to clean it.

150 posted on 09/30/2003 4:30:57 PM PDT by Kieri
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"If you just paint, it loosens the nicotine and it bleeds right through,"

Is there no end to their silly nonsense, talk about being off the wall.

When we moved out of our rental, there were people waiting in line to get our townhouse, the owner even asked if they could use our unit to show prospective tenants, said our place looked and smelled so clean all the time...... we were two smokers, and we lived there for 10 years.

152 posted on 09/30/2003 4:35:27 PM PDT by Great Dane (You can smoke just about everywhere in Denmark.)
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To: Gabz
More folks jumping on the bandwagon of lies looking to make a quick buck.

Not a lie. Walls of homes that smokers live in do reek of tobacco long after they are gone.

156 posted on 09/30/2003 4:40:46 PM PDT by PJ-Comix (A Stitch In Time Won't Save You A Dime But At Least It Makes This Dopey Saying Rhyme.)
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I am a cigar smoker and I live in a waterfront home on the Eastern Shore of Maryland. The value of my home has increased by 100% since I bought four years ago. If someone doesn't want the water access and view from my place, they can go to hell.
168 posted on 09/30/2003 4:56:18 PM PDT by jackbill
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To: Gabz
Nonesense. I smoke and nobody can tell when they come in my house. Boil a little orange peel and cinnamon on the stove from time to time and use a little Fabreeze.
192 posted on 09/30/2003 5:36:50 PM PDT by McGavin999
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I can't think of a better aroma...a cigarette burning, taters cooking over a gas stove in an old musty house.
194 posted on 09/30/2003 5:39:25 PM PDT by BoozeHag
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Open window, air house out. Done.

This is absurd. If you buy a new house, the little lady will want new paint, new carpet (or tile), and a complete redecoration.

So do non-smoker houses go up by an equal amount?

Beware the real estate bubble.
204 posted on 09/30/2003 5:48:52 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (Vote!)
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Hey, I heard that cigarette smoke killed dust mites, mold and all of the other latter day hypochonriacistic mennaces that people seem to have discovered about homes. LOL.. ;) My stupid question of the day... people have lived in similar structures for hundreds of years. Heck, in the past there was no running water, lack of regular cleaning, even animals living in thatched roofs. 3 dog nights had a real meaning. Gee, I bet they *really* worried about dust mites, radon, mold, you name it.... ARRRRRGHHHH!
220 posted on 09/30/2003 6:28:07 PM PDT by GOP_1900AD (Un-PC even to "Conservatives!" - Right makes right)
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"No, I don't mind if you smoke. Do you mind if I f*rt? It's one of my habits... I quit once for a year, you know, but I gained a lot of weight. It's hard to quit. You know, after sex I really get the urge to light one up." -- Steve Martin
252 posted on 09/30/2003 7:32:42 PM PDT by pttttt
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Now I ask you... Would you rather be in the presence of a person who blows second hand cigarette smoke through his mouth or blows a blast of methane through his anus? (The average human discharges about three pints of methane per day)... I, for one, have been on non-smoking flights where a nonchalant person did just that. The smell was horiffic, most likely unsanitary, and made me want to puke. If we are going to have laws enacted about air quality, I sure hope that they include a no-farting clause. Especially in confined spaces....... And I would definitely not buy a house where farting was a common occurrance. Else, I would probably sue the previous owner....
268 posted on 09/30/2003 7:59:59 PM PDT by eeriegeno
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Never had a problem selling my house in Laguna Niguel, and I'm a smoker. I'm not a heavy smoker, but I smoked in every room in that house. I had buyers everywhere. House was in escrow in two weeks. So this is another set of lies from the Smoking Nazis.
271 posted on 09/30/2003 8:04:34 PM PDT by Slip18
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When I was a renter, I never had a problem with my landlords because of my smoking. In fact, all of my landlords praised my maintenance of their properties, because they were CLEANER when I left than they were when I moved in.

I smoke, on average, a pack a day.

When we rented the top half of a mother/daughter house, I had to toss out urine stained carpets and rebuild the molding around the shower because the previous occupants would throw parties, vomit/urinate where ever, and let the show run for hours.

We moved out when the sold the house, which sold only 45 days after it hit the market.

We moved into an apartment in Suffolk County, where I preceeded to bleach the living heck out of everything, scrubbing down the walls, the ceiling, and even pulling down the blinds and soaking/scrubbing them till they were white again. When a building inspector came into our apartment complex and checked each unit, the inspector was aghast. She said, and I quote, "This is the cleanest apartment I've ever seen." We had two cats, too, but NOT ONE PERSON even knew it until they came out from under the bed.

My neighbors used to joke that all I did was clean. I spent 12 to 16 hours every week doing nothing but housework, from the ceiling vents and fans to the baseboards, and everything in between. When we considered moving in 2001, a relator came to my home, took one quick look around, pronounced it "immaculate" and assured me she could sell it within a week (for a whole lot more than what we thought it was worth).

Why? Because it was "pristine."

I know non-smokers whose homes are a shambles, pet owners whose homes stink like wet, dirty dogs, and homes that have a "funky" mildew smell to them. If you don't deep clean (not just surface clean, but deep down nitty gritty clean) every week, any home will have a "smell" to it eventually.

Smoker, or not.

290 posted on 09/30/2003 8:23:52 PM PDT by TheWriterInTexas (Under Seige - MWCF)
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A 1999 California tobacco study found that 47.2 percent of smokers in that state had smoke-free homes. In 1993, only 20.1 percent of smokers had restrictions on smoking in their houses, according to the California Department of Health.

What a joke this statistic is in relation to this article. In California, you can have a mass murder in a home and people will still buy it. Crack houses, drug labs, porns - compared to those, the smoking issue is a non-issue. Besides, it's a provable fact that the glues from cabinets, the plastics used in creating the carpets, and the solvents in house paints and in adhesives used in flooring are a lot worse than 'left over' smoke will ever be.

Home prices have climbed another 20 percent in the last year around here. No one cares if the house reeks of smoke, 'cause if they wait to find one that doesn't, the home prices will rise yet again.
330 posted on 09/30/2003 10:02:52 PM PDT by kingu
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To: Gabz
Capitalism works.
336 posted on 09/30/2003 10:59:59 PM PDT by Jeff Gordon (Anyone who accepts the LA Times as the truth has no business calling anyone a RINO.)
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To: Gabz; Judith Anne; SheLion
I’ve been looking at this thread and I notice quite a bit of anger here. If any is interested, here’s my take on this report. I used to be a smoker, but I am not one of those rabid anti-smoking Nazis. I’m too much a live-and-let-live kind of person. I believe that smokers have been persecuted unjustly.

I had a condo in LA. Frequently people would tell me that they never knew I smoked – the answer was ventilation. I also liked the color white and about 6 months before I decided to sell, I had the entire condo painted white – all the walls were cleaned – all bookshelves taken down – etc – a very thorough job was made. When fate handed me an opportunity, I decided to move. Having just recently cleaned the walls, I decided not to bother again. When it came time to remove the bookshelves – I was appalled to see how white some areas where compared to the remaining dark walls – in just 6 months. It was seeing that crud that convinced me that no matter how clean I may think a place may be, being a smoker, I’m unable to judge the effect I’m having in my environment. Seeing that brown gunk, propelled me on my private quest to give up smoking. But, that was my quest. Those who smoke, are welcome to it, without judgment from me. Mr. Peel likes a cigar every now and then. I’m not going to tell him “no”.

It wasn’t too long ago that we decided to shop for a house. A real estate agent was absolutely convinced that she had found the “perfect” place for us. So we took a look. We specified a house with a view, and when we arrived – there was no view. Already I was disappointed. Mr. Peel used to be an architect, is very highly critical of the structure of the house. We hadn’t even stepped a foot inside when he whispered to me: “Roof needs replacing – it won’t even last 2 more years.”. When we walked inside, I don’t know which was worse – the smell of stale cigarette smoke or dog pee on the carpet. I probably gave a look on my face that betrayed my disappointment. “Let me show you ..” the agent began. “No, thanks I’ve seen enough.” And we left.

Now from the agent’s perspective, we were probably turned off by the cigarette smoke. From our perspective, we turned off my the agent: promising a house that met our needs which did nothing of the sort. The cigarette smoke, the dog pee oders were just excuses not to continue. But if the house had any kind of view, I can forgive a lot. I can remodel a kitchen, etc. But I’m not interested if the location doesn’t interest me and if the asking price is, in my opinion too high. Before even setting foot inside the house, I knew we’d have to pay for a new roof. Whose at fault in this case? The agent would blame the smokers. I blame the agent for wasting our time with a house whose location did not interest us. And, yes, we got a new agent.

354 posted on 10/01/2003 6:03:48 AM PDT by MrsEmmaPeel
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Dawn Allen of North East, Md., saw the yellow film that collected on her television screen, the windowpanes and blinds in the house she lived in for 10 years. "It's almost like smoke damage if you had a fire. It permeates everything," Allen said.

Looks like Dawn never heard of spring cleaning. Poor dopey Dawn just thought she needed eye glasses.

356 posted on 10/01/2003 6:16:01 AM PDT by metesky (("Brethren, leave us go amongst them." Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond- The Searchers)
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To: Gabz
More folks jumping on the bandwagon of lies

What lies? I wouldn't buy a house that had been smoked in for years any more than I would buy a house that had been occupied by dozens of cats. Who wants a stinky house?

360 posted on 10/01/2003 6:24:23 AM PDT by steve-b
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Hey, it's market forces at work here.
391 posted on 10/01/2003 9:45:32 AM PDT by Junior (Killed a six pack ... just to watch it die.)
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