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Well then screw it. If every last party in America wants to screw us over, eff it. NOBODY gets my effing vote. Loonytarians included.

I won't give approval to all the parties looking to eff over American workers. Republican. Democrat. Loonytarian. Xcrew y'all then.

No one is looking to "eff over" American workers.

Without going into a lengthy discussion here, every benefits from free trade, and in this particular issue, why should people pay into Social Security if they are never going to reap the benefits of the system?

I think most libertarians would take it a step further and say that the SS tax should be outright eliminated, but that this is a reasonable start.

As to jobs going overseas, what America needs to wake up and realize is that it's a done deal, and rightly so. If there are people willing to do the job cheaper elsewhere, any rational capitalist will obtain his labor at the lowest possible cost. So obviously these types of countries have a comparative advantage over the US in things like manual and low-tech labor. The answer for US workers is not to demand that the free market be regulated by the government, but to adapt to market conditions and learn skills which cannot be readily exported. There's a reason why there has been such a push in education over the past 15-20 years, and it is this--uneducated people will not succeed in the United States any longer.

Yeah, we could go back to the "old" system in which half of the people in the United States were farmers, but we would not be nearly as productive and successful as a nation than we are now. Sure, lots of farmers lost their jobs as the nature of the economy changed from agrarian to manufacturing based, and people will lost jobs as the economy shifts from a manufacturing based to a service or technology based. It's part of progress. Henry Ford single-handedly destroyed the buggy whip industry; is that a bad thing? Of course not--despite that people lost their jobs, it was a revolution that changed the way America functioned. We will adapt. If not, we will fail. Either way, we will meet our proper fate.

The difference is, Libertarians would repeal the SS tax for Americans as well.