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Russia Puts Global Climate Pact in Doubt(Kyoto Protocol is not sufficiently grounded in science )
Associated Press ^ | Tue, Sep. 30, 2003 | VLADIMIR ISACHENKOV

Posted on 09/30/2003 11:01:52 AM PDT by getget

Russia Puts Global Climate Pact in Doubt

MOSCOW - A senior adviser to President Vladimir Putin outlined strong reservations Tuesday about ratifying the Kyoto Protocol, saying the pact to limit greenhouse gas emissions is not sufficiently grounded in science and would harm Russia's economic growth.

Although Putin's economic adviser, Andrei Illarionov, stopped short of ruling out Russia's ratification of the protocol, which is necessary for it to take effect, his strong criticism of the agreement appeared to leave little hope for approval of the document.

Illarionov, an influential adviser, spoke to reporters on the sidelines of the U.N. World Climate Change Conference. He made the remarks after Putin said Monday that his Cabinet hadn't yet made up its mind whether Russia would ratify the protocol.

To go into effect, the 1997 protocol must be ratified by no fewer than 55 countries, accounting for at least 55 percent of global emissions in 1990. After the United States rejected the treaty, the minimum can be reached only with Russia's ratification.

Illarionov said that the United States and Australia opted out of the protocol after deciding that compliance would be too expensive, and that it would be even less affordable for Russia, which has a much smaller economy.

He elaborated on Putin's statement Monday that Russia could benefit from global warming, saying that warmer temperatures would help increase harvests, cut energy consumption and open ice-encrusted seas to navigation.

"Public opinion was artificially focused on negative consequences of climate change, but there are also positive consequences for both our country and the planet as a whole," Illarionov said.

Yuri Vorobyov, Russia's deputy minister for emergency situations, challenged Illarionov's optimism, telling the conference that warmer temperatures could increase the number of catastrophic floods and damage energy pipelines and other infrastructure in the north.

Whatever the consequences, Illarionov voiced doubts about global warming being a stable trend, echoing Russian scientists who told the conference that the Kyoto protocol's advocates had failed to prove that emissions trigger global warming. They pointed at other factors, such as volcanic eruptions and the ocean's impact, saying they need to be more thoroughly analyzed.

The Kyoto Protocol calls for countries to reduce their level of greenhouse-gas emissions to 1990 levels by 2012. If a country exceeds the emissions level, it could be forced to cut back industrial production.

Russia's emissions have fallen by 32 percent since 1990 largely due to the post-Soviet industrial meltdown, but they have started to rise again as the economy revived.

Illarionov said that the Kyoto Protocol would hamper Putin's goal of doubling Russia's gross domestic product in 10 years and the subsequent growth by requiring Russia to launch a costly overhaul of its industries in order to cut emissions.

He said that doubling the GDP will bring Russia's emissions to 104 percent of their 1990 level, conflicting with the protocol. "But Russia isn't going to stop at this level, so the carbon dioxide level will be much higher," Illarionov said.

He said that the United States, China and many other nations staying out of the protocol account for 68 percent of global emissions, making the document largely senseless. He said that Russia currently accounts for some 6 percent of global emissions compared to U.S. share of 25 percent and China's 13 percent.

"We are facing a bizarre situation when Russia, which makes less emissions, must cut them, while nations which make much more, like the United States and China, won't curb them," Illarionov said.

"That raises the question about the document's efficiency," he added. "No matter what sacrifice Russia makes, it won't bring us closer to the goal. It would be strange to undertake such obligations if they aren't universal."


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To: mj1234
Kyoto is being put in America now,by way of the backdoor N.G.O of the U.N
41 posted on 09/30/2003 1:23:34 PM PDT by getget
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To: singsong
WHERE ON
EARTH ARE
WE GOING?http://www.iaed.org/books/strong.html
42 posted on 09/30/2003 1:26:16 PM PDT by getget
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To: Just mythoughts
The Biggest LIE:Global Warming as the Great Reds' Green Hoax
http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3ae1c76f63fd.htm
43 posted on 09/30/2003 1:28:18 PM PDT by getget
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To: Just mythoughts
Putin asking for US to sign a "non-aggression pact" with N. Korea can hardly be a Christian thing to ask.
It's not about Korea, it's about Russia being too close to it and not very stable at that.

The government and its actions can hardly be call Christian considering some of its actions since that iron fist went broke.
Do you hve in mind post-1991 actions? I see nothing major, really.
44 posted on 09/30/2003 1:33:38 PM PDT by singsong
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To: getget
Maybe some people will wake up and take another look at the Kyoto fraud.This is simply an excuse to control the activities of certain nations by unfounded fear.
45 posted on 09/30/2003 1:44:12 PM PDT by INSENSITIVE GUY
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To: getget
OK I'll agree with Maurice Strong when I see her riding a camel and somehow absorbing the CO2 in its fart. Same for the rest of the green bunch - they need to show me how they prevent methane and CO2 "polution". Are they going to stop exhaling, inhaling or smoking? But no, they set other people's SUVs on FIRE. Hello... FIRE...
46 posted on 09/30/2003 2:10:41 PM PDT by singsong
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To: getget
Write off of 35 billion dollars in the past 5 years....

Look I am not trying to put the Russian people down, but one can hardly begin to compare the write off of debt and outright handouts from this nation to what Russia has done.

We are trying to get 22 billion alone to assist the now freed people of Iraq. Who among the nations have sent their own to help in that gift of love?
47 posted on 09/30/2003 2:23:34 PM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: Just mythoughts
Hmmm, but dollar in America not same as dollar in Russia. In Russia dollar buy loaf bread and 1-2 KG potatoe.
48 posted on 09/30/2003 3:07:28 PM PDT by RussianConservative (Hristos: the Light of the World)
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To: .cnI redruM
When I grew up, I never believed I'd live in a world that relied so heavily on the Russians to fend off socialist Europe.

No Kidding. Me either. And it's gonna get worse.

49 posted on 09/30/2003 3:11:36 PM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: RussianConservative
I take it you have lived in Russia, how much of the United States have you seen.

Have you seen farm country, the vastness of it crops, which we give away by the boat loads.

I appreciate your loyalty to Russia, but comparing the giving by the two countries is simply not possible.

50 posted on 09/30/2003 3:57:53 PM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: Just mythoughts
If note, article compare % GDP. I seen a lot US...most east coast and part middle mountain..Appalacha...also Nevada, California.
51 posted on 09/30/2003 5:26:31 PM PDT by RussianConservative (Hristos: the Light of the World)
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To: RussianConservative
Yes I saw the it was base on % of GDP for past five years.

We have been passing out the goodies since WWI.

NO WAY TO COMPARE!
52 posted on 09/30/2003 5:33:54 PM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: Just mythoughts
the = that
53 posted on 09/30/2003 5:34:34 PM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: adam_az
warmer weather means more access to natural gas and oil reserves now frozen out of the market.
54 posted on 09/30/2003 9:45:40 PM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorisim by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: adam_az
Yuri Vorobyov, Russia's deputy minister for emergency situations, challenged Illarionov's optimism, telling the conference that warmer temperatures could increase the number of catastrophic floods and damage energy pipelines and other infrastructure in the north.
True democracy - advisor and minister on the opposite sides.
55 posted on 09/30/2003 9:52:09 PM PDT by Truth666
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