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Russia Puts Global Climate Pact in Doubt(Kyoto Protocol is not sufficiently grounded in science )
Associated Press ^ | Tue, Sep. 30, 2003 | VLADIMIR ISACHENKOV

Posted on 09/30/2003 11:01:52 AM PDT by getget

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1 posted on 09/30/2003 11:01:52 AM PDT by getget
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To: getget
"That raises the question about the document's efficiency," he added. "No matter what sacrifice Russia makes, it won't bring us closer to the goal. It would be strange to undertake such obligations if they aren't universal."

Welcome to the club Russia.

2 posted on 09/30/2003 11:05:06 AM PDT by Flashman_at_the_charge
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To: getget
Thank you, Vladamir. When I grew up, I never believed I'd live in a world that relied so heavily on the Russians to fend off socialist Europe.
3 posted on 09/30/2003 11:05:39 AM PDT by .cnI redruM (redruM's Advice -- NEVER steal the ID of a registered sex offender!)
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To: getget
Let's see. The two countries most known for science since WW II have expressed doubt about the scientific validity of Global Warming. But 3rd world countries with 3rd world science have endorsed Kyoto. Hmm. What to think . . .
4 posted on 09/30/2003 11:05:40 AM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the Law of the Excluded Middle)
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To: getget
"Global warming" is unproven theory, and one with a lot of evidence aginst it. It is not something to base political decisions on.
5 posted on 09/30/2003 11:05:48 AM PDT by Steely Glint ("Communists are just Democrats in a big hurry.")
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To: getget
New World Order Rising? - Thoughts on the UN World Summit on Sustainable Developmenthttp://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/743512/posts?page=10
6 posted on 09/30/2003 11:06:08 AM PDT by getget
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To: Flashman_at_the_charge
"Welcome to the club Russia."

No, it more like 'America won't sign onto this, so back to the drawing board until we can shame them into becoming a signee.'

7 posted on 09/30/2003 11:07:28 AM PDT by shadowman99
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To: getget
Thanks for posting this.
8 posted on 09/30/2003 11:10:20 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (May our brave warriors kill all of the Islamokazis/facists/nazis to prevent future 9/11's.)
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To: getget
He elaborated on Putin's statement Monday that Russia could benefit from global warming, saying that warmer temperatures would help increase harvests, cut energy consumption and open ice-encrusted seas to navigation.

"Public opinion was artificially focused on negative consequences of climate change, but there are also positive consequences for both our country and the planet as a whole," Illarionov said.


Agreed - plus there are so many variables, such as variations in the earths orbit, cosmic rays from the Milky Way, fluctuating energy output from the sun, volcanic activity and outgassing, variable amounts of algae, and a host of other things that are BIG variables in any equation - we just don't know enough to establish direct cause and effect relationships. In the end, even if there is manmade global warming, it's effect might be positive for mankind, especially if it means heading off another ice age.
9 posted on 09/30/2003 11:10:34 AM PDT by adam_az
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To: Grampa Dave
Environmentalists Organizations Exposed

http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3b870f13654c.htm
10 posted on 09/30/2003 11:10:46 AM PDT by getget
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To: .cnI redruM
BTTT

great comment!
11 posted on 09/30/2003 11:11:59 AM PDT by adam_az
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To: BOBTHENAILER; Shermy; SierraWasp
The kiss of death for "Kyoto Bad Science Anti American Tactics" was administered during Putie's and GW's meeting last week.

I just hear the socialist watermelons in old Europe and America screaming about their latest loss.
12 posted on 09/30/2003 11:13:22 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (May our brave warriors kill all of the Islamokazis/facists/nazis to prevent future 9/11's.)
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I just love it when Putin comes to the mike and agrees with the USA.

The days of the Church vs Galileo are gone.

13 posted on 09/30/2003 11:15:57 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: getget
Thanks, I just bookmarked this link.

Are you new or operating under a new name?

Regardless, thank you.
14 posted on 09/30/2003 11:16:18 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (May our brave warriors kill all of the Islamokazis/facists/nazis to prevent future 9/11's.)
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Environmentalists try to buy Russia off with the promise of lots of U.S taxs money !!
15 posted on 09/30/2003 11:16:34 AM PDT by getget
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[Illarionov] elaborated on Putin's statement Monday that Russia could benefit from global warming, saying that warmer temperatures would help increase harvests, cut energy consumption and open ice-encrusted seas to navigation.

HERETIC!! Burn him at the stake!!

(no lighter fluid, please--that wouldn't be environmentally correct)

16 posted on 09/30/2003 11:17:10 AM PDT by randog (Everything works great 'til the current flows.)
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To: Grampa Dave
The kiss of death for "Kyoto Bad Science Anti American Tactics" was administered during Putie's and GW's meeting last week.

AL GORE SUICIDE WATCH.

AL GORE HATES PUTIE PUT!

17 posted on 09/30/2003 11:18:00 AM PDT by BOBTHENAILER (One by one, in groups or whole armies.....we don't care how we getcha, but we will)
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"If the Kyoto agreement doesn't enter into force it will be very damaging for international environmental work," said Boerge Brende, head of the U.N. Commission on Sustainable Development.
18 posted on 09/30/2003 11:19:35 AM PDT by getget
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To: randog
Kyoto Protocol http://unfccc.int/
19 posted on 09/30/2003 11:21:21 AM PDT by getget
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To: shadowman99
There are some mistakes in this article..
1. China will ratify- THEY DO NOT HAVE TO COMPLY!
(because Kyoto has a wierd way of calculating compliance-
i.e.-China has the highest population ergo can have more
pollution. by the way- China has PASSED the U.S. on
total pollutants!!
2. The european union can swap "credits with poorer countries"
i.e. Turkey is not limited so can "trade pollutant credits"
with Germany etc.

Kyoto WASN"T a enviromental treaty!!!! -it was an economic
TREATY!!!!- tHEIR PISSED AT THE U.S. NOT FALLING INTO
ANOTHER U.N. TRAP!!

GET THE U.S. OUT OF THE U.N.
20 posted on 09/30/2003 11:22:44 AM PDT by mj1234
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