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To: lakey
Yes, thoughts exactly. I'd like to pretend that my side is always perfect, but we all know how emotions can get the better of someone.

On the other hand, just because he's paranoid DOESN'T mean anyone is out to get him.
10 posted on 10/01/2003 2:17:40 PM PDT by libravoter (Live from the People's Republic of Cambridge)
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To: libravoter
9PM EST

Radio program Wednesday night on Schiavo case featuring Ron Panzer, Vickie Travis and Nancy Valko-see website

Pro-Death Judge "Greer Denies Motion Allowing Terri Schiavo to Eat on Her Own"

Bob Schindler - father of Terri Schiavo will be co-hosting a 2-hour radio broadcast
with other guest speakers (below) who will chime in on this subject.

Ron Panzer, Vickie Travis, and Nancy Valko - will join Mr. Schindler on the broadcast.

Please distribute this email broadcast far and wide - tune in, educate yourself, and participate. We encourage your phone calls to our guests and in specifc to Mr. Schindler.

Please see information on our website on how you can also talk to the guests FREE long distance,
using Yahoo! Msgr.

TIME > 9:00 PM - Eastern Standard Time. (9-11 PM)
GO HERE > http://www.highway2health.net

CALL-IN LINE: (321) 984-4505

Highway 2 Health Radio Broadcast - with Dr. Sal Martingano & Peter Kawaja, co-hosts.

Ron Panzer

President, Hospice Patients Alliance

http://www.hospicepatients.org

Vickie Travis
Former Caregiver and Eldest Daughter
of Adam Wesley Arnold
http://www.kaiserpapers.org
Board Secretary Hospice Patients Alliance
http://www.hospicepatients.org/
Vickie@kaiserpapers.org
Kaiser looks good on paper - but then so did Communism - A Kaiser observer

Nancy Guilfoy Valko, RN
A nurse for 35 years, working mainly in oncology, home health/hospice, hemodialysis and several kinds of ICUs, including trauma, currently full-time nurse in an ICU, recent hour-long program on the Terri Schiavo case for Wisconsin NPR, written for publications, both religious and secular, doing medical news analysis articles for the National Catholic Register. Spokesperson for the National Association of Prolife Nurses (http://www.nursesforlife.org president of Missouri Nurses for Life and a contributing editor for Voices, the magazine of Women for Faith and Family (www.wf-f.org)


Nancy Valko, a leading pro-life nurse who monitors end-of-life issues, says the Schiavo case should be a warning to the pro-life community that some want to deny rehabilitative care to the disabled or those with incurable diseases.


"The importance of saving Terri cannot be overestimated," Valko explained. "Not only for her but also to brake the movement to get rid of people with severe brain injuries or conditions by withdrawal of basic medical care, futility and other 'end of life' policies, inadequate insurance coverage for rehab services and even non-heart-beating organ donation."

Pro-Death Judge] "Greer Denies Motion Allowing Terri Schiavo to Eat on Her Own"
[for now]
by Steven Ertelt LifeNews.com Editor September 14, 2003
read it online at: http://www.lifenews.com/bio48.html
or read it below:
[beginning of article]
Clearwater, FL (LifeNews.com) -- On Monday, Circuit Court Judge George Greer told Terri Schiavo's parents that their motion to allow Terri to learn to eat on her own prior to the removal of her feeding tube would not be granted -- at least not now.


Greer denied the motion on a legal technicality, saying the family's attorney had not used the proper legal means to advance the motion and that the issue of allowing Terri to eat on her own would be decided later this week.


Greer is considering whether or not to allow Terri to have rehabilitative care. That's been a sticking point for the family who say that Michael Schiavo, Terri's husband, has denied her such medical help.


The Schindlers have doctors who believe she could be rehabilitated with new and aggressive therapy.


George Felos, the euthanasia crusader who is Michael's attorney, told Greer that doctors he has consulted with have testified that Terri is capable of swallowing her saliva. However, if given water or pureed food, Felos says Terri will choke on it and the blockage could lead to pneumonia.


The motion called for delaying removal of the feeding tube until the transition has been completed and Terri can eat on her own.


"The court must give her a chance to transition to nutrition by mouth," Anderson said, adding that Terri "has never been given the chance to get better. She's been treated as if she's already dead."


Anderson said if Greer withdraws the feeding tube without allowing Terri a chance to eat on her own, he is violating Florida law.


Tom Marzen, a pro-life attorney and expert on euthanasia who has been following the case, tells LifeNews.com, "the next question is whether anyone will even try to feed and hydrate Terri by mouth after the tube is removed if she can possibly swallow successfully. If not, then can't we abandon any pretense that this case involves anything other than fulfilling a death wish?"


Michael was awarded $750,000 in a malpractice lawsuit that was supposed to be used in part on rehab care for Terri. Her parents say only a small amount of the funds has been used this far.


Nancy Valko, a leading pro-life nurse who monitors end-of-life issues, says the Schiavo case should be a warning to the pro-life community that some want to deny rehabilitative care to the disabled or those with incurable diseases.


"The importance of saving Terri cannot be overestimated," Valko explained. "Not only for her but also to brake the movement to get rid of people with severe brain injuries or conditions by withdrawal of basic medical care, futility and other 'end of life' policies, inadequate insurance coverage for rehab services and even non-heart-beating organ donation."


[end of article]


Vickie Travis
http://www.kaiserpapers.org
Board Secretary Hospice Patients Alliance
http://www.hospicepatients.org/
Vickie@kaiserpapers.org
Kaiser looks good on paper - but then so did Communism - A Kaiser observer


A Kaiser Permanente Case Prosecuted by the L.A. District Attorney (unsuccessfully)


read it online at:

http://www.ascensionhealth.org/ethics/public/cases/case7.asp

or read it below:


[beginning of article]


Case of: Barber-Nejdl (Clarence Herbert)


Doctors Nejdl and Barber were charged with murder and conspiracy to commit murder following the death of Clarence Herbert. Herbert went into cardiac arrest following routine surgery. After being on a respirator for three days, the doctors concluded that Herbert would not recover consciousness. His family consented to removal of the respirator; Herbert continued to breathe on his own. After two more days, and with family consent, the patient’s intravenous lines providing nutrition and fluids were removed. The patient died several days later. Charges against Nejdl and Barber were eventually dismissed. The court stated that in the case of a "permanently unconscious patient," decisions should be based on whether potential benefits outweigh the expected burdens. The court also found that in the absence of legislation to the contrary, family members could act as appropriate surrogate decision-makers even if they are not legal guardians. [Source: 195 Cal. Rptr. 484 (1983).]


http://members.tripod.com/american_almanac/hmousele.htm

A nurse's testimony led to the Los Angeles County prosecutor attempting to bring murder charges against the doctors. While the case was not successful, what was discovered during the investigation and scandal, was the role of Kaiser's policies. Kaiser's policies dictated that the doctors were in danger of losing their year-end bonuses for cost-cutting if they had kept

him alive!

www.highway2health.net

DO NOT BE FASHIONABLY LATE FOR THE BROADCAST !
11 posted on 10/01/2003 3:16:25 PM PDT by pc93 (http://www.terrisfight.org)
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