The United Nations: Heading for History's Dustbin?

The Globe and Mail ^ | September 30, 2003 | Paul Koring and Anthony Jenkins

[KantianBurke]

Doubtful. Our current Republican President has us more engaged with the organization. If one who is a member of the GOP won't get rid of this useless waste of space of an organzation, one can only shudder to think what DEMORAT will do.

[ZULU]

We can only hope and pray.

[Teacher317]

The United Nations: Heading for History's Dustbin?

Yes, please!

[Pikamax]

I really hope so.

[fishtank]

UN World Conference Against Racism

[hoosierboy]

Well the league of nations went down the toilet, but it took a world war. Unfortunately, it would take a world war to get us out of the UN.

[NonValueAdded]

ping

[bobjam]

The United Nations war policy is based on principals of Western Civilization: orderly, controlled and civilized warfare. Outside the West and Western oriented nations, the concept of a "non-combatant" is mere fantasy. Look at the manner in which Israel (a Western oriented nation) conducts operations against Arabs in the West Bank versus the manner in which those same Arabs operate against Israel. The UN is unable to deal effectively with these people because they refuse to play by the UN's rules. Thus the UN's very short success list.

[thinktwice]

The term "dustbin" isn't anything I'd use.

In my mind, closing down the United Nations is more like sealing off a campground outhouse.

[hoosierboy]

Yeah and the pallies live in UN run "refugee camps" and the un lets them launch rockets, build bombs, shoot guns. All under the watchfull eye of the UN.

[knighthawk]

Thanks, a great one

[knighthawk]

Bluntly, the UN has been a miserable failure if measured by wars prevented, or its record of legitimizing military force to right egregious wrongs.

No more UN for US-list

If people want on or off this list, please let me know.

[McCloud-Strife]

Headed for history's dustbin? No... I would say it went there a long time ago. The UN is dead, they just don't realize it yet

[randog]

In my mind, closing down the United Nations is more like sealing off a campground outhouse.

ROFLMAO!! Quote of the Day material!

[2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten]

Hey, the Delian League didn't last forever, no reason to think that the UN will. The sooner we get Kofi packing his bags and heading back for Ghana, the better I'll like it.

[ExpatCanuck]

Doubtful. Our current Republican President has us more engaged with the organization.

Would you not agree that engaging them forces them to either act or expose their inactivity? I believe that the Bush administration is purposely engaging them, and as more Americans realize the UN is indeed irrelevant, support for changing it will grow.

[tm22721]

May the UN rest in peace

[KantianBurke]

Unlikely. Has Bush made ANY public speeches deriding the UN? No. In fact, his last address, if it did anything, made the organization more respectful and viewed as being useful. "We need to take down terrorists but need allies and the only way to obtain their help is through the UN" isn't exactly an all resounding call for the UN's demolition. Lastly even if you were correct and that was the path Bush is taking, its wrong on its face. Wasting taxpayer money on a venture you WANT to fail is theft. Pure and simple.

[ExpatCanuck]

Unlikely. Has Bush made ANY public speeches deriding the UN?

You seem to be missing my point. Can you imagine the political fallout of such a speech? The reality is that there are politics involved here. If he were to deride the UN it would be portrayed by the left as his trying to shift the blame for all his own 'failures' to the very UN he defied and didn't listen to.

Instead he will give them every opportunity to prove their ineffectiveness, without giving anyone ammunition to fuel the claim that he is responsible for the UN's failure.

I believe that when all is said an done, most rational people will look back and say, "Hey, Bush gave the UN every opportunity to have a positive influence, and they blew it".

Be patient, this is a chess game, not craps.