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The United Nations: Heading for History's Dustbin?
The Globe and Mail ^ | September 30, 2003 | Paul Koring and Anthony Jenkins

Posted on 09/30/2003 8:18:36 AM PDT by quidnunc

If the UN doesn't aid the U.S. in rebuilding Iraq, it risks total irrelevance on the world stage

Kofi Annan's ringing denunciation of unilateralism, and his spirited defence of the United Nations as the cornerstone of "collective security" in the post-Second World War era were, no doubt, music to the ears of those who deplored U.S. President George W. Bush's attack on Iraq to oust Saddam Hussein's regime.

The UN Secretary-General may have been indulging in some wishful, or perhaps revisionist, thinking when he asserted that "however imperfectly, world peace and security have rested" on the UN's founding principles: collective security and the need for Security Council approval to make war.

Bluntly, the UN has been a miserable failure if measured by wars prevented, or its record of legitimizing military force to right egregious wrongs.

Since its founding in 1945, there have been scores of wars, mostly small, to be sure, but some monstrous in their death tolls. From Southeast Asia, where wars raged for decades, to the sporadic but ongoing wars in the Middle East, to genocidal civil wars in Africa and the Balkans, not to mention myriad more minor border wars and clashes, the Security Council has failed far more than it has succeeded.

Only twice, in Korea in 1950, and 40 years later in the first gulf war against Iraq, has the Security Council explicitly authorized the use of full-scale war to enforce its resolutions. The Korean War ended in a stalemate and the divided peninsula remains a conflicted, dangerous (and now possibly nuclear) flashpoint half a century later. The war to liberate Kuwait in 1991 was militarily successful — but it failed, at least to the extent that more than a decade later, the Security Council was again paralyzed by division over how to deal with Baghdad and its outlawed, but unaccounted-for weapons programs — nuclear, biological and chemical.

What really contained the wars in the last half of the 20th century was the Cold War reality: that two superpowers, each capable of obliterating mankind, maintained an uneasy peace, fighting mostly by proxies, and moving in concert to keep little wars from getting out of control. The fear of mutually assured destruction, not the Security Council, prevented and contained conflicts.

As for resorting to unilateralism, it loomed just as large in the past as the present. While many of the offenders were small- or medium-sized military powers, they were legion. Iraq and Iran fought an eight-year war, in which millions died. India and Pakistan fought three wars, Israel and its Arab neighbours four or five, depending on how you count. Argentina invaded the Malvinas, and Britain retook the Falklands. Even NATO allies Turkey and Greece managed a near-war over Cyprus.

On occasion, the superpowers resorted to unilateral war, the invasion of Afghanistan in 1979 by the Soviet Union, or the 1983 U.S. seizure of Grenada being just two examples.

In almost all those instances, nations claimed self-defence, often on grounds no more, or less shaky than Mr. Bush's contention that pre-emptive war against international terrorism, and rogue states that support it, is legitimate self-defence.

There's nothing new about the Security Council's failure to avert conflict or curb unilateralism. What is new is whether superpower unilateralism is more dangerous in a unipolar world.

For the United Nations, the risk isn't more unilateral wars, it is irrelevance.

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TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: koffi; un
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1 posted on 09/30/2003 8:18:36 AM PDT by quidnunc
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To: quidnunc
Doubtful. Our current Republican President has us more engaged with the organization. If one who is a member of the GOP won't get rid of this useless waste of space of an organzation, one can only shudder to think what DEMORAT will do.
2 posted on 09/30/2003 8:25:20 AM PDT by KantianBurke (Don't Tread on Me)
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To: quidnunc
We can only hope and pray.
3 posted on 09/30/2003 8:27:12 AM PDT by ZULU
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To: quidnunc
The United Nations: Heading for History's Dustbin?

Yes, please!

4 posted on 09/30/2003 8:29:03 AM PDT by Teacher317
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To: Teacher317
I really hope so.
5 posted on 09/30/2003 8:32:44 AM PDT by Pikamax
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To: quidnunc

UN World Conference Against Racism


6 posted on 09/30/2003 8:34:09 AM PDT by fishtank
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To: quidnunc
Well the league of nations went down the toilet, but it took a world war. Unfortunately, it would take a world war to get us out of the UN.
7 posted on 09/30/2003 8:37:47 AM PDT by hoosierboy
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To: knighthawk
ping
8 posted on 09/30/2003 8:55:23 AM PDT by NonValueAdded ("Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists." GWB 9/20/01)
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To: hoosierboy
The United Nations war policy is based on principals of Western Civilization: orderly, controlled and civilized warfare. Outside the West and Western oriented nations, the concept of a "non-combatant" is mere fantasy. Look at the manner in which Israel (a Western oriented nation) conducts operations against Arabs in the West Bank versus the manner in which those same Arabs operate against Israel. The UN is unable to deal effectively with these people because they refuse to play by the UN's rules. Thus the UN's very short success list.
9 posted on 09/30/2003 9:02:50 AM PDT by bobjam
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To: quidnunc
The term "dustbin" isn't anything I'd use.

In my mind, closing down the United Nations is more like sealing off a campground outhouse.

10 posted on 09/30/2003 9:09:28 AM PDT by thinktwice
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To: bobjam
Yeah and the pallies live in UN run "refugee camps" and the un lets them launch rockets, build bombs, shoot guns. All under the watchfull eye of the UN.
11 posted on 09/30/2003 9:12:14 AM PDT by hoosierboy
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To: NonValueAdded
Thanks, a great one
12 posted on 09/30/2003 9:17:44 AM PDT by knighthawk (Freedom is my believe, for you I would die)
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To: Tom Jefferson; backhoe; Militiaman7; BARLF; timestax; imintrouble; cake_crumb; Brad's Gramma; ...
Bluntly, the UN has been a miserable failure if measured by wars prevented, or its record of legitimizing military force to right egregious wrongs.

No more UN for US-list

If people want on or off this list, please let me know.

13 posted on 09/30/2003 9:18:44 AM PDT by knighthawk (Freedom is my believe, for you I would die)
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To: knighthawk
Headed for history's dustbin? No... I would say it went there a long time ago. The UN is dead, they just don't realize it yet
14 posted on 09/30/2003 9:21:03 AM PDT by McCloud-Strife
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To: thinktwice
In my mind, closing down the United Nations is more like sealing off a campground outhouse.

ROFLMAO!! Quote of the Day material!

15 posted on 09/30/2003 9:25:10 AM PDT by randog (Everything works great 'til the current flows.)
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To: quidnunc
Hey, the Delian League didn't last forever, no reason to think that the UN will. The sooner we get Kofi packing his bags and heading back for Ghana, the better I'll like it.
16 posted on 09/30/2003 9:26:06 AM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: KantianBurke
Doubtful. Our current Republican President has us more engaged with the organization.

Would you not agree that engaging them forces them to either act or expose their inactivity? I believe that the Bush administration is purposely engaging them, and as more Americans realize the UN is indeed irrelevant, support for changing it will grow.

17 posted on 09/30/2003 9:40:06 AM PDT by ExpatCanuck
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To: quidnunc
May the UN rest in peace
18 posted on 09/30/2003 10:05:44 AM PDT by tm22721 (May the UN rest in peace)
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To: ExpatCanuck
Unlikely. Has Bush made ANY public speeches deriding the UN? No. In fact, his last address, if it did anything, made the organization more respectful and viewed as being useful. "We need to take down terrorists but need allies and the only way to obtain their help is through the UN" isn't exactly an all resounding call for the UN's demolition. Lastly even if you were correct and that was the path Bush is taking, its wrong on its face. Wasting taxpayer money on a venture you WANT to fail is theft. Pure and simple.
19 posted on 09/30/2003 10:10:36 AM PDT by KantianBurke (Don't Tread on Me)
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To: KantianBurke
Unlikely. Has Bush made ANY public speeches deriding the UN?

You seem to be missing my point. Can you imagine the political fallout of such a speech? The reality is that there are politics involved here. If he were to deride the UN it would be portrayed by the left as his trying to shift the blame for all his own 'failures' to the very UN he defied and didn't listen to.

Instead he will give them every opportunity to prove their ineffectiveness, without giving anyone ammunition to fuel the claim that he is responsible for the UN's failure.

I believe that when all is said an done, most rational people will look back and say, "Hey, Bush gave the UN every opportunity to have a positive influence, and they blew it".

Be patient, this is a chess game, not craps.

20 posted on 09/30/2003 10:42:54 AM PDT by ExpatCanuck
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