[Sam Cree]

"Well, I guess I see a more colorful mix in the 10's of millions of democrats in this country."

I don't disagree. I simply maintain that the various elements in the (Democrat) mix still fall within the 2 categories, at least to a very large degree. Hopefully there are plenty of Democratic voters who are skeptical of the Democrats, just as there are many who vote Republican, but are skeptical of that party.

I would add that many causes, such as "civil rights," environmentalism, "anti war," etc. are adopted by the Left for use as a lever, not because they necessarily believe in them.

[biblewonk]

My dad was a campaign manager for a local state house rep. This guy, not my dad, was in no way one of the elitists described. The only ones I can think of that actually want marxism/communism seem to be Hillary and Hillary and Hillary. Clinton was president for the same Reason Kiss is into rock, for the sex.