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D.C. FBI Chief Regrets Leaks and Labels in Anthrax Case
Washington Post ^ | 9/30/2003 | Carol D. Leonnig

Posted on 09/30/2003 4:28:21 AM PDT by TrebleRebel

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To: TrebleRebel
Thanks for # 39. You should ping some people who might understand it.

:)
41 posted on 09/30/2003 2:32:16 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: EdLake
I wonder why the New York Times hasn't written anything and what they will emphasize.

After the Dr. Z debacle, they might be a little touchy about covering anthrax.

42 posted on 09/30/2003 2:36:56 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: jpl
It's not that only a few people can make it.

As I understand it, there are so many ways to make the anthrax that "reverse engineering" can't account for all the variables. So, they can easily come up with good "semi-weaponized" anthrax that's just as deadly as what was in the Senate envelopes, but it's not EXACTLY the same as the attack anthrax. Too many variables.
43 posted on 09/30/2003 2:58:36 PM PDT by EdLake
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To: EdLake
Geez, Hatfield didn't do it anyway.

The anthrax was taken from a special lab in Texas where they have been working with if for years. They had in their employ, several non-nationals that managed to sneak some out. The message written on the letters (YOU HAVE THIS ANTHRAX) was referring to the fact that they GOT IT from US. Could HATFIELD have been a part of getting it to them? Maybe, but he certainly didn't participate in it any further than that.

44 posted on 09/30/2003 3:07:12 PM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: EdLake
But Hatfill's friends and former employers would only provide documents showing that Hatfill is INNOCENT. They would provide proof that he was at a wedding on Oct. 6, they would provide his time sheets proving that he was working long hours, etc.

The minds of the FBI (not to mention several uninformed Freepers) have already decided it was Hatfill. Please stop confusing them with facts that prove otherwise...

46 posted on 09/30/2003 7:35:29 PM PDT by Technogeeb
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To: genefromjersey
ping
47 posted on 09/30/2003 8:41:37 PM PDT by Calpernia (Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does.)
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To: Badabing Badaboom
Why bother with oxygen 18 when you've got a specific grade of silica and specific super-specialized binder chemicals to tell you who made the stuff?

What binder chemicals are you referring to?

48 posted on 10/01/2003 8:33:20 AM PDT by Mitchell
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To: Technogeeb
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/08/01/national/printable566200.shtml

The above article contains this:

"Law enforcement officials have said Hatfill is not a suspect and that no evidence links him to the letters."

However, the people who think Hatfill is the culprit only see that as a smokescreen. Nothing will convince them that Hatfill isn't the culprit except an arrest of someone else - and they might even think that was another smokescreen. There's just no way to convince True Believers.

Ed

49 posted on 10/01/2003 9:54:03 AM PDT by EdLake
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To: EdLake
"Law enforcement officials have said Hatfill is not a suspect and that no evidence links him to the letters."

Assuming that the press is telling the truth here, it's rather difficult to reconcile this amazing statement with the 24 hour surveillance, wiretapping, and electronic eavesdropping that Hatfill alleges in his lawsuit complaint, is it not?

I can only assume one of three things is going on here:

1) Hatfill and his lawyer are lying about the surveillance and wiretapping.
2) The FBI is lying with their statement that Hatfill is not a suspect and no evidence links him to the crime.
3) The FBI knows that Hatfill is innocent, but are harrassing him purely out of spite in order to punish him for going public during the case.

If #3 is what is going on, and I hope that it isn't, then God help us all.

50 posted on 10/01/2003 1:10:55 PM PDT by jpl
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To: jpl
Those are the only options you can come up with?

None is valid or even reasonable.

As far as I'm concerned, the FBI has said that Dr. Hatfill was NOT a suspect from the very beginning, and they contintue to say that.

But Barbara Hatch Rosenberg, Don Foster, Glenn Cross and a few other amateur detectives have been campaigning for almost 2 years to pin the blame on Dr. Hatfill. They've talked to countless newspapers, they've talked to the public to congressmen and to Senate staffers. They've created such a frenzy about Dr. Hatfill in the media that they left the FBI with no choice but to investigate every "tip" about Dr. Hatfill - no matter how STUPID the tip may be.

The Maryland pond "tip" is the best example. The FBI has openly stated that they didn't think it would be worthwhile, but they had to drain the pond anyway, otherwise Barbara Hatch Rosenberg and her group would be accusing them of not investigating "tips" about Dr. Hatfill.

I've detailed her entire campaign in great detail here: http://www.anthraxinvestigation.com/campaign.html

The whole Dr. Hatfill fiasco is just politics.

Ed
http://www.anthraxinvestigation.com/


51 posted on 10/01/2003 2:19:10 PM PDT by EdLake
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To: jpl
I can only assume one of three things is going on here:

1) Hatfill and his lawyer are lying about the surveillance and wiretapping.

They are definitely not lying. They've taken reporters along with them while being followed. Many reporters have seen it, and one of the FBI employees ran over Hatfill's foot when Hatfill went to confront him. Remember?

2) The FBI is lying with their statement that Hatfill is not a suspect and no evidence links him to the crime.

They're not lying. There's never been even a hint of incriminating evidence against Hatfill.

3) The FBI knows that Hatfill is innocent, but are harrassing him purely out of spite in order to punish him for going public during the case.

Hatfill didn't go public until after the FBI made that public search of his apartment and put him under 24 hour surveillance.

52 posted on 10/01/2003 3:18:44 PM PDT by EdLake
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To: EdLake
Ashcroft isn't going to waste valuable time, money, and resources for over a year during an international war on terror conducting what he knows is going to be a fruitless investigation of someone just to mollify Barbara Hatch Rosenberg, Nicholas Kristof, and Don Foster. He wouldn't even do it for Leahy and Daschle, who actually have some power to speak of, but whom Ashcroft personally despises. It simply doesn't make any sense.
53 posted on 10/01/2003 3:44:09 PM PDT by jpl
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To: jpl
Ashcroft isn't going to waste valuable time, money, and resources for over a year during an international war on terror conducting what he knows is going to be a fruitless investigation of someone just to mollify Barbara Hatch Rosenberg, Nicholas Kristof, and Don Foster. He wouldn't even do it for Leahy and Daschle, who actually have some power to speak of, but whom Ashcroft personally despises. It simply doesn't make any sense.

I agree that it doesn't make any sense. But that doesn't mean it isn't true. What's the alternative? What else could the FBI do? Should they have said that Dr. Hatfill is innocent and that Dr. Rosenberg is wrong? How do you prove someone innocent except by finding the person who is guilty?

And why would people believe the FBI instead of Babs Rosenberg when it's part of Rosenberg's argument that the FBI is covering up for Hatfill? Saying that Hatfill is innocent without satisfactorily countering all the rumor and innuendo about Hatfill would just convince Rosenberg's supporters that the FBI was covering up for Hatfill.

Plus, it isn't just Rosenberg, Foster and Cross. It's the media and the public. What Rosenberg and Foster did was get the media hyped up and believing. And the media got the public hyped up. And the public got politicians hyped up. As a result we got newspapers demanding that Hatfill be arrested, even though there is absolutely NO proof that he was behind the anthrax mailings.

It's all politics. There's nothing that scares people like Ashcroft more than being accused of incompentency. So, the DOJ had the FBI investigate every "tip" about Hatfill no matter how stupid the tip was. If they didn't, they'd be accused of not doing their job. And they put Hatfill under 24-hour surveillance in case something else happened. If there was another mailing, they would need to know where Hatfill was.

There are a lot of people who believe Barbara Hatch Rosenberg. She's a "scientist", so they figure she should know what she's talking about. Ha!

Ed

54 posted on 10/02/2003 7:28:23 AM PDT by EdLake
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To: jpl; Badabing Badaboom; Shermy
The Washington Post

September 28, 2003, Sunday, Final Edition

Anthrax, Homicides, Financial Probes on Agenda for Chief of FBI's D.C. Office

The rookie FBI undercover agent was sitting at a picnic bench with some ex-convicts in a back yard in Connecticut. Two menacing dogs -- a German shepherd and a Rottweiler -- were nearby.

One of the men kept peppering agent Michael Mason with questions, acting suspiciously, trying to check him out. Suddenly, another man -- a major heroin dealer under investigation -- turned to Mason and blurted: "You don't have to answer him. He thinks he's J. Edgar Hoover, he thinks he's the FBI!"

"I was really freaked by that," Mason said the other day, as he recalled the episode early in his career. He said he wound up making an undercover heroin buy, but "talk about a cold sweat."

Eighteen years later, Mason's propensity to jump into the thick of it has landed him the job as head of the FBI's Washington field office, which covers the District and Northern Virginia. He is at the forefront of a host of major cases, including the anthrax investigation and various financial scandals.

Mason, 45, a personable man of good humor, is the second African American to head the Washington field office. It's a distinction, he says, that he clearly recognizes.

"A lot of people who came into the FBI, African Americans, took a lot of grief, were not welcomed with open arms, were given crappy jobs. I'm talking about 25 or 30 years ago," said Mason, whose eighth-floor office displays a picture of baseball legend Jackie Robinson.

"But they stayed for a better day," Mason said. "I have felt as if they are looking at me and saying . . . 'We took a lot of [grief] so you could ascend to that position.' "

One of six children, and the son of a truck driver for the Chicago school district, Mason worked his way through high school, bagging groceries and pumping gas. He graduated from Illinois Wesleyan University in 1980 with an accounting degree and then spent five years with the Marine Corps.

In 1985, he joined the FBI, a goal born in seventh grade when he started watching a weekly television show about the bureau starring Efrem Zimbalist Jr. He was first assigned to Hartford, Conn., where he began dating his future wife, fellow agent Susan Sherland, who has since left the bureau. They have two sons, ages 9 and 12.

Mason later moved to several other assignments, including jobs at FBI headquarters and field offices in Syracuse, N.Y., Buffalo and Sacramento. As head of the Sacramento office, he was credited with improving strained relations between the FBI and local law enforcement agencies.

"He was tops; they don't come any better," said Stanislaus County Sheriff Les Weidman in Modesto, Calif. "He's charismatic, intelligent, quick-witted, sincere."

The Washington field office is the FBI's second-largest, with 700 agents. Mason took over Sept. 2, replacing Van Harp, who retired after nearly two years at the helm.

In recent weeks, Mason, who lives in Northern Virginia, has been meeting not only with agents but with many support personnel. One of his early stops: a visit to the FBI's car mechanics in Northeast Washington, to let them know they are a key part of the operation.

His colleagues give him high marks as an agent. Mason, however, said that he does not consider himself an expert on terrorism. He said he planned to rely on Mike Rolince, a veteran supervisor in the office, "who I consider the face of the war on terrorism."

While terrorism is the top priority, Mason said he will not ignore other crimes.

"As evil and as bad and vile as terrorism is, in 2002 we had over 18,000 homicides in this country, and not one was committed by al Qaeda," he said. "So we have other concerns. We also have public corruption, we have government fraud."

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Two years isn't very long. My guess is that VanHarp got sent to the woodshed.

55 posted on 10/02/2003 7:54:04 PM PDT by TrebleRebel
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To: TrebleRebel; pokerbuddy0; Badabing Badaboom
Thanks for the post TR.

I had a good feeling about Mason when I read his first news conference. Good, moderate tone.
56 posted on 10/02/2003 7:58:32 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: Shermy
"Nonsense, but it gained traction in the mainstream media."

Which, we must admit, may have been its sole purpose.

57 posted on 10/02/2003 8:08:38 PM PDT by okie01 (www.ArmorforCongress.com...because Congress isn't for the morally halt and the mentally lame.)
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To: Badabing Badaboom
Dr. M. bump.
58 posted on 11/17/2003 2:56:03 PM PST by Shermy
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