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Novak: Wilson's Wife Not a Covert CIA Agent
NewsMax.com ^ | 9/29/03 | Carl Limbacher and NewsMax.com Staff

Posted on 09/29/2003 9:46:58 PM PDT by kattracks

The wife of Bush-bashing former U.S. ambassador to Iraq, Joe Wilson is apparently not a covert CIA operative or an undercover agent, though she's been described that way repeatedly since the CIA asked for an investigation on how her identity was made public.

According to columnist Robert Novak, who revealed Mrs. Wilson's name in his July 14 column, sources at the CIA expressly told him she was not a spy.

"According to a confidential source at the CIA, Mrs. Wilson was an analyst, not a spy, not a covert operative, and not in charge of undercover operatives," Novak told his audience on CNN's "Crossfire."

"So what is the fuss about?" he asked, then wondered aloud, "Pure Bush-bashing?"

In fact, in a little-noticed line in the initial Washington Post report on the announcement of the CIA's request for an investigation, the paper noted that "the CIA has declined to confirm whether she was undercover."

Still, hours after Novak went public with a clarification of Mrs. Wilson's status, she was described as a "undercover agent" by former White House chief of staff David Gergen in an interview with Fox News Channel's Greta Van Susteren, and as a "covert agent" by MSNBC's Chris Matthews.

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KEYWORDS: cia; gergen; leakers; niger; nigerflap; novak; noval; plame; uranium; wilson
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To: Poohbah
According to Drudge, Novak is now saying he didn't get Plame's name from the White House. Why did he wait so long?
81 posted on 09/30/2003 5:18:17 AM PDT by carton253 (All I need to know about Islam I learned on 9/11/2001)
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To: Miss Marple
It seems to me we need to know if that is true, or if it is yet another example of his "excess of zeal" when discussing this story.

Someone also needs to write an op-ed regarding the eerily similar "excess of zeal" displayed by the Washington Post. Their coverage of this has been in lockstep with Wilson's wild claims. A (backpedaling) bicycle built for two? I need to go back and reread, but did they every openly cite Wilson as a source of claims in the Sunday story, or did they try (by ommission) to imply independent verification?

82 posted on 09/30/2003 5:18:30 AM PDT by Stultis
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To: MJY1288
You are precisely correct. There are just too many questions in this case, like who sent this guy down there? who talked to the London papers?
83 posted on 09/30/2003 5:19:21 AM PDT by Former Proud Canadian
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To: carton253
He was probably enjoying this (bleep) until his lawyer told him what was what.
84 posted on 09/30/2003 5:20:59 AM PDT by Poohbah ("[Expletive deleted] 'em if they can't take a joke!" -- Major Vic Deakins, USAF)
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To: Poohbah
Probably... but, it is disgraceful.
85 posted on 09/30/2003 5:22:56 AM PDT by carton253 (All I need to know about Islam I learned on 9/11/2001)
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To: Stultis
What I want to know is why didn't anyone raise the alarm bells about Plume's name last July? Or, has it just been an open secret? Justice was asked to looked into this, in September, but when exactly were they asked?
86 posted on 09/30/2003 5:31:45 AM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife ("Life isn't fair. It's fairer than death, is all.")
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To: RDangerfield
"His wife wasn't "outed" on the site."

Perhaps not, but in one of Wilson's tirades, he complained that the "outers" had even released her maiden name. Which, of course, he had already done via his bio.

87 posted on 09/30/2003 5:40:05 AM PDT by MizSterious (Support whirled peas!)
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To: seamole
A mountain out of a mole hill.

Bottom line... BUSH hasn't done anything illegal.

Clinton did!
89 posted on 09/30/2003 5:42:34 AM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife ("Life isn't fair. It's fairer than death, is all.")
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To: seamole
Here is a question for ya:

Assuming Joe Wilson and wife, the former Virginia Plame, are political fellow travelers, that is leftists, why and how was she ever involved in the decision to send this non-investigator to investigate Africa ties to Iraq vis a vis WMD?

91 posted on 09/30/2003 5:47:41 AM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: Pan_Yans Wife
Do you think there was anyone in Washington who didn't know who Wilson's wife was?

According to Clifford D. May from National Review quite a few know who she was. Spy Games

He also was on FNC yesterday and said the same thing

92 posted on 09/30/2003 5:52:06 AM PDT by Kaslin (Does anyone have a tagline they can spare?)
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To: Ann Archy
I am so damn fed up with Fox News I could spit.....where the hell is the FAIR and Balanced???? It's turned into nothing but left wing nuts.

Where were you yesterday when Britt and the panel discussed this and covered all the same stuff that NewsMax is covering (i.e, she wasnt a spy, Novak wasnt called by the whitehouse, Wilson and the Washington Post are backtracking on their claims, etc.). Or is it just too much fun to be upset?

93 posted on 09/30/2003 5:52:56 AM PDT by Dave S
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To: kattracks
Did you catch Harkin on the Floor last night?
He was despicable, but it was funny to watch after reading the Facts here at FR.

NOTE: He said all this @ 6:40pm EST last night, well after Novak came out and said no one from the Administration gave him the Info.


http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/D?r108:17:./temp/~r108hrhpBI::


BREACH OF NATIONAL SECURITY -- (Senate - September 29, 2003)


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Mr. HARKIN. Madam President, I remember when I was a young boy, right towards the end of World War II, and there was a famous sign I saw at the American Legion club in my small town in Iowa. The sign said, ``Loose Lips Sink Ships.''

Later on when I went into the military and served in the military, I always remembered that, especially when it came to dealing with sensitive information, that we had to be very careful, very cautious about how we dealt with information which, if it got into the wrong hands, could be injurious to the United States of America.

I mention that because if what I have been hearing and reading about in the news media is anywhere near the truth, then we have a very serious breach of national security emanating from the administration. This is no small matter, about the disclosure of the identity of a CIA agent, an undercover agent, the identity of whom could not only be harmful to that individual herself but to persons with whom she had contact and dealings in other countries.

This July a noted columnist, Robert D. Novak, on July 14, disclosed a covert operative's identity. That is a violation of Federal law. I am not certain Mr. Novak knew that was a violation of Federal law. He should have. He has been in this business a long time. But he printed this disclosure. Where did he get the information? Mr. Novak said he got the information from two senior administration officials. The story goes on to say that:


Yesterday, a senior administration official said that before Novak's column ran, ``two top White House officials called at least six Washington journalists and disclosed the occupation of Wilson's wife [who is the undercover agent who was disclosed by Mr. Novak]. ``Clearly it was meant purely and simply for revenge,'' the senior official said of the alleged leak.


What happens when a disclosure like this goes out is that if agents in the field are on pins and needles about whether they are going to be disclosed at some time, it is going to threaten our intelligence capabilities around the globe. And in fighting international terrorism, the most important thing we need is not the U.S. military, it is not bombers and missiles or a nuclear arsenal or nuclear submarines--in order to combat and beat international terrorism, what we need is good information. Intelligence--intelligence sharing with our allies. If our agents in the field--working undercover with the contacts, the kind of sources they need--if they believe their identity is going to be disclosed in a newspaper column, what does that say to them about how they can do their business? This threatens our intelligence-gathering capabilities.

In fact, I can think of no single action that probably has done more to hurt our ability to fight international terrorism than this disclosure of this undercover agent's name. I say that because it is going to cast a cloud over those who risk their lives daily who are already out there gathering information to protect our country.

You might ask: What precipitated this? Why was this leaked? Evidently it was leaked because this person's husband had revealed the truth about President Bush's deception in his State of the Union Message about Iraq trying to get uranium from Niger.

This individual, Joseph C. Wilson, IV, former U.S. Ambassador, publicly challenged President Bush's claim that Iraq tried to buy ``Yellow Cake'' uranium from Africa for possible use in nuclear weapons. Because Mr. Wilson had such good credibility when he put this out, it raised questions about whether the President was being forthright in his State of the Union Message. That is why one senior official said that clearly it was meant purely and simply for revenge.

We have the leaking of an undercover individual's name because her husband had revealed the truth about the deception in the State of the Union Message.

I don't know who these two individuals are in the administration, nor how high up they are. Mr. Novak said they were two senior administration officials. Another senior administration official said two top White House officials. Who are they? I guess I would have to ask if President Bush is really serious about cooperating and finding out who it was that violated Federal law--a criminal activity punishable by up to 10 years, a felony. If the President is really serious, and he said he was here--Mr. McClellan, the President's press secretary, said it is a serious matter and it should be looked into.

If the President is serious about cooperating and getting the truth out, ABC News ``The Note'' today posed these questions which I agree should be answered:

Has President Bush made clear to White House staff that only total cooperation with the investigation will be tolerated? If the President has not done this, why hasn't he?

Has the President insisted that every senior staff member sign a statement with legal authority that they are not the leaker and that they will identify to the White House legal counsel who is? If the President hasn't asked his staff to do that, why hasn't he?

Has President Bush required that all of his staff sign a letter relinquishing journalists from protecting those two sources? If he hasn't, why hasn't he?

Has President Bush said that those involved in this crime will be immediately fired? If he hasn't, why not?

Has Mr. Albert Gonzalez distributed a letter to White House employees requiring them to preserve documents, logs, and records? It is very important. Has Albert Gonzalez distributed a letter to White House employees telling them to preserve documents, logs, and records? If he hasn't, why hasn't he?

Has Mr. Andrew Card named someone on his staff to organize compliance with these? If he hasn't, why hasn't he?

These are things the President has to do if he really and truly wants to cooperate, if he truly wants to get these two individuals identified, and if he truly wants to have them prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law, which they ought to be.

This is not some obscure real estate deal out in the middle of nowhere. I repeat this is not some obscure real estate deal out in the middle of some wilderness area. This has to do with our fight against international terrorism and whether or not those who are charged with the responsibility of collecting and gathering intelligence for us will be protected and their identities protected. Or will we send a signal that they are fair game, that someone in the White House can leak their name, that some columnist will print it in the paper and identify them as an undercover agent for the CIA?

This is serious business. The sooner the President of the United States gets

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to the bottom of it and complies--and, yes, as soon as we have a special counsel, an independent counsel, not from the Justice Department but a special independent counsel needs to be appointed immediately to make sure that logs, records, and phone logs are not destroyed, that computer files are not erased, and to make sure that we find out who it was who did this to our intelligence communities. Nothing less than a special counsel with full investigative powers, with the full powers of subpoena, nothing less than that will suffice to clear this up and to assure the American people that the President and those close around him had nothing to do with this.
Mr. REID. Madam President, will the Senator yield?

Mr. HARKIN. I yield to my friend from Nevada.

Mr. REID. I haven't heard all of the Senator's statement, but what I have heard leads me to believe after having read about this myself that whoever did this is a traitor. Whoever leaked this is someone who has subjected someone who is an undercover spy for this country to being murdered. I think that it even puts the columnist at risk, Bob Novak, who I like very much. I don't always agree with his politics, but he is a person who has always been very good to me.

I am very happy that the Senator from Iowa has weighed in on this.

I also acknowledge that something should be done. It is my understanding that the majority and the Democratic leader, the ranking member of the Foreign Relations Committee, the ranking member of the Defense Committee, and the ranking member of the Intelligence Committee have written a letter to the Attorney General and the President tonight calling for just what the Senator from Iowa has asked--that there be a special counsel selected to go into this. Some of the things that the special counsel went into during the last few years are minor compared to the gravity of this.

I personally applaud and congratulate the Senator from Iowa for bringing this to the attention of the people of America.

Mr. HARKIN. I thank my friend from Nevada. I am glad to hear that those individuals have sent a letter to the President and to the Attorney General. I hope our friends on the other side of the aisle will do the same. I hope the majority leader and the chairmen of those respective committees will do the same and ask for a special independent counsel.

The word ``traitor'' is not misleading. It is not trying to blow this out of proportion. I think the Senator is absolutely right. Whoever leaked this and put not only this agent at risk--think about all of the contacts this agent had in other countries. Think about the chilling effect this puts on our intelligence gathering to combat international terrorism. The word ``traitor'' is certainly not going beyond the bounds.

I think the Senator is right. This is not some obscure little thing. This is not some obscure real estate deal out in the middle of nowhere. This affects the security and safety of our country.

I don't know who did this. But they have to be punished.

Mr. REID. Will the Senator yield for another brief comment?

We have had some espionage people who have turned on us in recent years. They have had very high publicity. I think of the man in Kansas who turned and became a double agent, so to speak, which led to the deaths of American operatives in other countries.

Is this any less than that? It is on the same plane. Whoever did that is certainly guilty of crimes--not punishable by death, perhaps, as Hanssen was subject to, but certainly punishable for many years in Federal prison. I appreciate the Senator bringing this to the attention of the American people through speaking in the Senate.

Mr. HARKIN. I thank my friend.


94 posted on 09/30/2003 6:03:42 AM PDT by OXENinFLA
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To: OXENinFLA
Mr. HARKIN.:You might ask: What precipitated this? Why was this leaked? Evidently it was leaked because this person's husband had revealed the truth about President Bush's deception in his State of the Union Message about Iraq trying to get uranium from Niger.

This guy needs a swift kick in the rear.

95 posted on 09/30/2003 6:05:13 AM PDT by OXENinFLA
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To: Kaslin
Yes... read and posted May's article.
96 posted on 09/30/2003 6:05:54 AM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife ("Life isn't fair. It's fairer than death, is all.")
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To: Miss Marple
I saw it as well. He also said that several reporters called him and told him the White House was calling them, AFTER Novak's column came out.

Now does that make any sense at all? I will bet dollars to donuts that here is what really happened:

1. Novak writes his story. He called his contacts. They didn't call him.

2. Other reporters pick up on the Novak story and start calling their White House and Administration sources.

3. These sources agree that Wilson was playing politics and he got the Niger job because of his wife.

4. Wilson then morphs this into the "White House was calling them" comment as if Novak has launched a WH PR campaign to get the message out to a bunch of reporters.

Someone should ask Wilson to clarify that statement: Did the WH call the reporters or just respond to their questions by affirming that they agreed with Novak's assessment that Wilson was politically motivated and got the job through his wife. Fox should put it to him. CNN never will.

97 posted on 09/30/2003 6:15:38 AM PDT by InterceptPoint
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To: OXENinFLA
Dims need to clarify what deception in the SOTU?

The 16 words is still considered true b/c the British Govt still believes Saddam sought uranium in Africa.. Repeat a lie often enough and people (helped by the liberal media) will believe it's true.

Republicans need to stand up and fight back!
98 posted on 09/30/2003 6:17:21 AM PDT by petercooper
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To: petercooper
I flipped on the BBC for a laugh last night and they spent 10-15 minutes on this thing. They made such a big deal about it, insinuating that Bush would be resigning in a few days. What a joke

And they showed Chuckie Schumer spewing his BS "Dastardly and despicable.." Sad to say he is one of my Senators
99 posted on 09/30/2003 6:22:21 AM PDT by petercooper
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To: MJY1288
We are going to find out that Wilson's wife Valrie Plame contacted the British Press and that Joseph Wilson's trip was never authorised by any high level official in the CIA. In fact I believe that it was the DNC who suggested he go to Niger and try and discredit the Yellow Cake claim.

Marking.

I agree.

100 posted on 09/30/2003 6:24:10 AM PDT by cyncooper
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