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To: UCANSEE2
Gee, I wonder if these chips are being used in a special purpose situation. One where someone will be trying to destroy the U.S. GPS system, but not destroy the Chinese system.

GPS satellites presently use radiation-hardened chips--otherwise they'd fail in a matter of hours after launch.

P.S. Here is something to scare the daylights out of you.

Uh-huh...

Yellowstone caldera, big deal. Asteroids, big deal.

Your point is?

China and N. Korea have been working on getting rockets that can carry small payloads into outer space ready.

China's had them since the 1960s. Whoop-de-do.

Know why?

I'm sure you'll tell me...

It's because those small payloads are their new GPS system.

If it's a small payload, it will not be a radiation-hardened payload capable of doing the GPS mission. Radiation-hardening adds a fair amount of weight to any satellite.

America's overpowering military is possible due to out GPS systems and technology, and is also totally dependent on that technology.

Actually, it isn't; it just helps our military work better.

If you want to beat AMERICA, then you must put up your own GPS system, and then disable the AMERICAN SYSTEM.

Uh-huh. All you have to do is kill over 20 satellites, WITHOUT killing your own unhardened satellites, AND ensure that the Americans can't use YOUR satellites.

Other nations (besides China and N. Korea) are helping,investing, and will be watching this feat being accomplished.

Uh-huh.

One must find out a way to destroy the US GPS satellites without destroying the CHINESE ones. Now I see how.

OK, then kindly tell us how it would be done.

AND....... we are asleep at the wheel.

Actually, we aren't; the fact that GPS actually survives years of exposure to the space environment speaks volumes about how radiation-hardened our satellites are, considering that the satellites are only 93,000,000 miles or so away from a completely unshielded and VERY large fusion reactor (the Sun) that puts out quite a bit of radiation.

12 posted on 09/29/2003 1:17:31 PM PDT by Poohbah ("[Expletive deleted] 'em if they can't take a joke!" -- Major Vic Deakins, USAF)
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To: Poohbah
GPS satellites presently use radiation-hardened chips--otherwise they'd fail in a matter of hours after launch.

So, it is not unreasonable to think that these chips will be used in foreign GPS satellites?

I said "our technology (for the military) it totally dependent on GPS"

You said, "Actually, it isn't; it just helps our military work better.

I agree with you. However, I don't think that most of our strategies in Iraq would have worked without GPS. Do you?

All you have to do is kill over 20 satellites, WITHOUT killing your own unhardened satellites, AND ensure that the Americans can't use YOUR satellites.

Kill or DISABLE?

I believe that if those satellites can be turned off, jammed, or otherwise scrambled, that the CHINESE have the best shot at it. How much of the GPS technology did Clinton give to the CHINESE?

I don't know and I would venture neither do you. Do our GPS satellites have self-destruct capabilities, should they lose orbit and need to be destroyed?

The precision of GPS coordinates is varied for various uses. Normal precision is what you and I can get. Then there is military precision. This accuracy was available only to the military (and other government agencies like NASA), and yet, Clinton gave away the 'key' to this to the Chinese.

OK, then kindly tell us how it would be done.

Reverse engineering. Now that the Chinese have the chips, they can determine exactly what and how they are 'protected'. Then, they design an extra protection around these 'hardened chips' that the US ones (already in use, in orbit) do not have.

Place the Chinese GPS sats in a different orbit than the US ones. Play bowling for dollars with a bunch of steel ball bearings. I can think of many ways to destroy or incapacitate them.

14 posted on 09/29/2003 3:34:24 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (y)
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