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To: zacyak
Wow. I expected better from you than that, you've disapointed me. Maybe calling you an eccentric kook was harsh, but I had assumed that you were use to that because your ideas seem to be a bit out of the mainstream. If you want to take the ad hominum gambit and dismiss me, well I guess that is your prerogative; I was just expecting something a little better than that from you.

My ideas are out of the mainstream because I believe all problems can by solved (inasmuch as they are solvable) by turning to the True G-d and living by His Laws to the best of our ability. And I do not advocate G-d's Laws for any purely utilitarian reason but because He is G-d. I have only One Reason for opposing homosexuality (and it ain't because it's "radical" or "corrosive of society"). I have only One Reason for supporting Israel (and it ain't because of Churban 'Europa' or any secular notion of "justice"). I have only one reason for drawing my next breath. In fact, I only exist for One Reason.

The thing is, so do you. But you "palaeos" with your concept of a purely utilitarian religion are basically no different from your leftist opponents. True, they believe in changing society with "rationalist blueprints" and you believe in "organic societies" which include the "religion" the society has created to embody its weltanschaung, but neither of you bow before the True G-d (or even give Him a hearing).

At least you must admit that chr*stianity as the "folk religion" of "western European man" is fraught with contradictions. In addition to claiming to be based on the Jewish Bible (and thus opening itself up to disproof by the Jewish Bible) there is the simple fact that the "gxd" you invoke is invoked by many of the peoples with whom you are at war. How many "J*suses" are there? There is one for Western European chr*stendom, one for Eastern Orthodox chr*stendom, one for Oriental chr*stendom, one for Nestorian chr*stendom, one for Armenian chr*stendom, one for Arab chr*stendom, one for Hispanic Catholics (who are theoretically your brethren but obviously are not), one for Irish Catholics, one for Ulster Protestants, one for pro-Israel white Fundamentalists, one for anti-Israel white Fundamentalists, and one for Black Fundamentalists (including an adjunct J*sus for radical Black nationalists). Now while his adaptability as the local, national-cultural and utilitarian "gxd" of all these feuding civilizations may make J*sus quite adept in one sense, it completely destroys any objective meaning he might otherwise have. Of course, if your supreme loyalty is to your "culture" or "race" or "nation" (with your religious loyalty determined solely by that factor) then you are really living your life in vain. Does your Western European chr*stian "gxd" offer you anything beyond the grave, of is he merely the noblest expression of Western Man, in which case he is more dependent on you than you are on him? If the latter, then you share with the liberals an absolutely mystefying idealism, since it is completely groundless.

I got the above impression of "palaeoconservatives," btw, from an article at the League of the South website on "Southern religion," in which the author implied that the purpose of a religion was to bind a society together (he left out the issue of truth of falsity in its entirety) and ignorantly claimed that Southern religion is not puritan or prohibitionist, and implied a non-missionary stance that, if one is not a Calvinist, can only implie that the purpose of a "gxd" is to serve a particular culture. Needless to say, I think such people have about as much in common with the people they seek to manipulate as Jesse Jackson does with COGIC people in the swamps of the Mississippi Delta.

As for insulting you, you quite honestly admitted to calling me a "kook," so I think no further elucidation is necessary there. You obviously came here recently just to cause trouble, so I will do you the favor of ignoring you from here on out.

80 posted on 09/29/2003 2:13:04 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (G-d's Laws or NONE!!!)
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To: Zionist Conspirator
You obviously came here recently just to cause trouble, so I will do you the favor of ignoring you from here on out.

What makes you think that I came here to cause trouble? You certainly have some odd ideas and I may decide to challenge some of them, but don't submit to some irrational paranoia about it.

81 posted on 09/29/2003 2:24:04 PM PDT by zacyak
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To: Zionist Conspirator; zacyak
I have only One Reason for supporting Israel (and it ain't because of Churban 'Europa' or any secular notion of "justice").

I'd like to hear more about your one reason. What is it?

92 posted on 09/30/2003 7:36:05 AM PDT by St.Chuck
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