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After 10-year surge, EE salaries level off at $89k (EE Salary Survey)
EE Times ^ | August 28, 2003 | EE Times Staff

Posted on 09/28/2003 10:40:37 AM PDT by nwrep

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1 posted on 09/28/2003 10:40:38 AM PDT by nwrep
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2 posted on 09/28/2003 10:42:57 AM PDT by nwrep
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pay raises in the US are effectively 0%. and if you lose your job, be prepared to take a 30% salary cut, if you can even find a comparable new job, which is unlikely.
3 posted on 09/28/2003 10:44:20 AM PDT by oceanview
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To: oceanview
a related thread here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/991063/posts

if current trends continue, much of the EE and CS professsional jobs in the US will be gone in 10 years.
4 posted on 09/28/2003 10:46:32 AM PDT by oceanview
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To: nwrep
Dang. I need to finish college, apparently...
5 posted on 09/28/2003 10:46:41 AM PDT by Chad Fairbanks (I like my women like I like my coffee - Hot, and in a big cup)
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Ok, I'll bite. To what do you attribute the lower pay for blacks? When I first looked at the stats, I thought it might be because there haven't been that many black engineers over the past 20 years or so (tho I've known a lot of black engin majors over the same time period). But Hispanics make more? I can't imagine there were many of them in engineering, either.

When my son was in undergrad in the mid/late 90s, he knew a lot of Vietnamese who were engineering - not because they wanted to be, in fact, many of them hated it. However, they were dutiful Asian children and their parents demanded that they major in a field that could get them a job.

Just curious, not looking to start an argument.
6 posted on 09/28/2003 10:55:00 AM PDT by radiohead
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None of the salaries discussed in the article will allow one to achieve a middle class lifestyle in the San Francisco Bay Area.

More to the point, knowing how much financial professionals get paid around here, I would say that EE's are drastically underpaid, given the amount of education and effort needed to prepare for the profession.

7 posted on 09/28/2003 10:58:12 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves
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Don't know about you, but most of the EE's I work with aren't worth $89K.
8 posted on 09/28/2003 10:59:36 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim (Ideas in tagline are closer than they appear.)
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To what do you attribute the lower pay for blacks?

Radio, I would guess it is a statistical artifact of this survey. There were so few black respondents, that the results for black engineers are not statistically valid.

9 posted on 09/28/2003 11:00:09 AM PDT by nwrep
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To: radiohead
that's easy: they have fewer years of experience in the positions they hold, and thus earn less.

and regarding the highly paid indians: they have management slots in which they are responsible for offshoring their co-workers jobs, so they get good bonuses for that (not a joke).
10 posted on 09/28/2003 11:01:02 AM PDT by oceanview
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BTTT, and thanks for posting this.
11 posted on 09/28/2003 11:06:12 AM PDT by e_engineer
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To: oceanview
The sky is falling, the sky is falling!
12 posted on 09/28/2003 11:16:45 AM PDT by ItisaReligionofPeace ((the original))
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Why do you think their is an exodus from Kalifornia?
13 posted on 09/28/2003 11:17:45 AM PDT by ItisaReligionofPeace ((the original))
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To: ItisaReligionofPeace
if you have any first hand information about what is happening in this field, please post it.
14 posted on 09/28/2003 11:18:26 AM PDT by oceanview
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To: radiohead
I once worked with a Vietnamese engineer who spent most of his time avoiding work. He would sit conspicuously at his desk all day (when he should have been in the lab) playing with a folded paper "football". (This was before the internet)

When rumors of layoffs started flying, we pulled him aside one day and suggested that he should at least learn how to look busy if he wanted to keep his job.

He laughed and said "I'm trying to dispel the stereotype of hard working Asians."

He got canned in the first round of layoffs in spite of his great sense of humor.

15 posted on 09/28/2003 11:19:20 AM PDT by e_engineer
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that why people need to steer their college bound children into other areas. a technician/mechanic at a high end car dealership like mercedes makes $85K. and they don't need a masters degree, and all that debt from a college education.
16 posted on 09/28/2003 11:20:38 AM PDT by oceanview
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To: oceanview
if current trends continue, much of the EE and CS professsional jobs in the US will be gone in 10 years.

Uh, they're talking about chip fab in that article, a highly specialized EE field.

17 posted on 09/28/2003 11:21:36 AM PDT by randog (Everything works great 'til the current flows.)
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To: oceanview
True, I know good people who have been looking for 6-12 months.
18 posted on 09/28/2003 11:21:54 AM PDT by AmericaUnited
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the fabs are almost gone, they are talking about the design now. and as that article says, those will be gone soon too. we aren't talking 6 months here, but give it 5-7 years.
19 posted on 09/28/2003 11:31:11 AM PDT by oceanview
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that's easy: they have fewer years of experience in the positions they hold, and thus earn less

i figured that. but i also assume that hispanics have fewer years in the field. i could be wrong and welcome education on the numbers of US hispanic engineers compared to blacks.

20 posted on 09/28/2003 11:44:28 AM PDT by radiohead
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