New Chamber of Commerce Poll: Recall leading 53-41%, Arnold 35%, Cruz 31%, Tom 17%

http://www.calchamber.com/news/index.cfm?id=67&action=detail&navid=270 ^ | 9-27 | Chamber of Commerce Poll

[ambrose]

New Chamber of Commerce Poll: Recall leading 53-41%, Arnold 35%, Cruz 31%, Tom 17%

[FairOpinion]

Here is something pleasant to read for a change: Arnold's optimistic interview with the SF Chronicle:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/990872/posts

[Texasforever]

Do you support a voucher or related program to allow parents to use their already paid tax dollars to help defray costs to send their children to a private school?

Nope. If you want private school pay for it yourself.

[fqued]

you wrote: "But the ripple effect of having a non conservative who also advocates many left positions become Governor of the largest state of the union immediately begins the marginalization of conservative right pro-famil;y party emmebrs and candidates."


Actually, history is against you. Such has not been the case in the past. For instance, IF one considers Pataki of the large state of New York a RINO, then his election in 1994 should have had serious consequences across the nation--did not happen.

Guiliani as mayor of New York City should also have had baaad consequences nationwide--did not happen.

Look back in history. Conservatism as we know it was essentially unknown on the political radar through the 1970s and the 1980s. It wasn't until 1994 that it really had any national impact, and it has become one of the main forces shaping politics and our society through the last decade. Many ideas that were scorned in 1990 are considered mainstream today.

Frankly, I think you are giving WAY too much negative power and influence to the election of what you would consider a non-conservative Republican as governor of California.


There ain't no history to back up your statement.

[CheneyChick]

10-4!

[projectile]

I am honestly curious about the Indian contributions. Is the taking of Indian contributions different then other contributions. Are Indian contributions illegal, dirty money or is there just some insinuation that he will owe them something?

[My2Cents]

in the hopes of convincing enough McClintock supporters he cares about the issues that concern them

Seriously, in the end, on election day, Arnold won't need McClintock's supporters.

[Texasforever]

Seriously, in the end, on election day, Arnold won't need McClintock's supporters.

The truth is that if the GOP is ever to lose the stupid party label we will all better off.

[ambrose]

Not only that - there have already been over a million absentee votes cast based on the present poll numbers.

[My2Cents]

Why doesn't Arnold pick up the telephone and call Tom?

Because he has said that he does not want to pressure Tom to quit. Tom is going to have to come to that decision on his own.

[nopardons]

BINGO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[ambrose]

There have been Freepers who have said that Bustamante is preferable to McClintock.

[My2Cents]

Yeah, wasn't the knock on Arnold earlier in the week that he's been stuck at around 28%? Looks to me that the C of C poll is indicating an Arnold breakout.

[CheneyChick]

That's whacked, too.

[fqued]

"Seriously, in the end, on election day, Arnold won't need McClintock's supporters."


YOU HIT IT ON THE HEAD! Give him a prize!
It looks like Arnold will become the next governor whether Tom M stays in, gets out, quits campaigning, takes up surfing, or loses his shirt gambling at an Indian Casino.

[Texasforever]

There have been Freepers who have said that Bustamante is preferable to McClintock.

Post one link.

[Yossarian]

(Here I go wasting good energy....)

Do you support benefits for "domestic partners?"

Do you support prop 54?

Do you support a voucher or related program to allow parents to use their already paid tax dollars to help defray costs to send their children to a private school?

Of course I support all of these. All three items have or will come up in some form or another in front of the voters, to varying results - sometimes the conservative side wins, sometimes not.

Whether or not the conservative stand gets taken by our government depends on the voting preferences of the electorate. Right now, California is hemmoraging JOBS, and thus causing an exodus of people who might vote for conservative values.

Workers often vote conservative. Bums always vote liberal. Without jobs (like me right now), Californians either become bums or ex-Californians. Without jobs, we lose our conservative base.

This election has to be about fixing the economic situation here. Once our economy gets on-line, we can start again on social issues.

[ambrose]

I'm worried about that 53%. It really isn't that high, what if some change their mind. Didn't we see it closer to 60% just a couple of weeks ago?

Don't compare this Chamber of Commerce poll to other polling company numbers. You'd be comparing apples to oranges. Each polling company uses differing methodology. Thus, what's most important to watch are the *trends* within the same polling company's poll.

That said, the internals show 49% VERY STRONGLY in support of the recall. Only 36% show people being VERY STRONGLY opposed. It will require a big shift for Grayout to survive, especially with a million absentees already in the can.

[GROOVY]

For the Arnold voters, I think we should be gentle with the MCC suporters. First, most of us probably agree with the MCC supporters on more issues than Arnold. Second, Arnold has a good chance of winning without them. Third, at a later date MCC could be a very useful figure in California politics, namely vs. Barbara Boxer. However, if too much animosity is built against MCC then he won't be of any use in any future election. Finally, the more the MCC supporters are attacked, the more they will respond defensively and emotionally and be drawn toward him.

Yet we can keep reminding people of the benefits of voting for Arnold and getting rid of Davis. For instance, just the displeasure of Bill Clinton (who was supposed to be Davis's guru) when Davis is recalled, might be enough to get a few MCC supporters to move over.

I can just see him biting his lip in anger right now, ick. But come on, thats another big loss for Clinton, (the alleged political genuis).

[fqued]

"There have been Freepers who have said that Bustamante is preferable to McClintock."


IF that is true, and I haven't seen even one such post, that would be as much a travesty as saying that Bustamante is preferable to Arnold

[deport]

Yeah, wasn't the knock on Arnold earlier in the week that he's been stuck at around 28%? Looks to me that the C of C poll is indicating an Arnold breakout.

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Also this poll was done 24/25..... Wednesday and Thursday, day of and day after the debate..... So what impact did it have on the out come? It could be these numbers are low...

Also there are two supposedly leaked numbers from the Democrat and Republican campaigns which show Schwarzenegger at 31 and 33 % IIRC..... 'tock at 15% in both......

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/990401/posts?