[Gabz]

This sort of nonsense may fool all the under 5'5" women who're convinced that their legs "are long in proportion to my torso length", but it simply irritates those of us who know the manufacturers are playing dumb games.

I agree. I rarely if ever wear women's slacks, because I just can't find ones that fit properly. Years ago I just gave up wearing slack for business reasons.

And I only buy men's jeans - those sizes make sense - length and wist - very simple.

[kaylar]

At least the catalog people are doing one thing right : They are getting rid of that petite/regular/tall bullcrap and just listing the actual inseam length. That is a huge step in the right direction (even if the garments don't fit because the inseams are bizarre in the first place). Back in the 1980s, they never told what the inseams were, and you were expected to take on trust that the same garment would fit size 8s who were 5 3 1/2", 5'5", and 5'8". Yeah, right!