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The female feelgood factor
Economist ^ | 09/25/03 | Correspondent

Posted on 09/27/2003 11:48:42 AM PDT by P.O.E.

Shocking news: a market that is rejecting standardisation

We live, it is said, in a world of standardisation: a place in which increasingly you can buy the same things—cappuccinos, food, cosmetics, fashions—in similar shops, in similar malls, in similar cities. The heart laments this and hopes it isn't really happening. The head, though, has to accept that it has advantages, for standardised products save time, reduce confusion, and may be cheaper and more predictable, especially when attached to a trusted brand. There is one market, however, in which hearts and heads alike are forcing things in a different direction: women's clothing. There, the customer is queen, and she seems to prefer confusion.

It is not the fashions themselves that are flouting standardisation. It is the sizes in which they are sold. Once upon a time these were predictable and numerological, even if the numbers used varied from country to country. It did not matter if a size 12 dress in Britain was called a 38 in Germany and a 44 in Italy, for a simple conversion chart would suffice. No longer. Increasingly, size is a matter of vanity not of measurement, for women have, well, become larger in various ways (see article). Not surprisingly, they would like to have their cake, eat it, and stay exactly the same dress size. Some clothing firms have accommodated such delusional desires by sticking to the same sizing numbers but making the clothes larger. Others have resorted to therapeutic words—petite, regular, “missy”. In America, it is even possible to buy women's clothes in size 0; presumably negative sizing cannot be far behind.

Men are, of course, going through the same dimensional change. They are not, however, encountering, or inviting, the same confusion. Occasionally it may be hard to work out what exactly is meant by “medium” or “extra large”, but mainly real measurements still rule. This may be because men have another option: for suit-wearers the best trick is to buy not the right new size but a size too big, for then the suit looks loose and people may be fooled into thinking you are getting slimmer, not fatter. Or perhaps their vanity is of a more primitive sort. A (possibly apocryphal) story about Winston Churchill has the great man recommending that among aid shipments sent during the second world war should be packages of British condoms, all large size but labelled “small”.

But for women, meanwhile, shopping is becoming harder: more things must be tried on, taking more time, and buying online is a poor option. Central planners, ignoring the fact that this is the result of expressed female preferences, would want standardisation reimposed. Here's an alternative suggestion for our freer era: clothing firms could agree a standard sizing to be put on some sort of bar code or tag. Then those who want speed and clarity could buy (or be given) an electronic reader to find out the easily comparable truth. Those who would rather fool themselves can continue to do so by reading the written labels. Such are the workings of invisible hands.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News
KEYWORDS: standback
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To: SamAdams76
Good for you, Sam! I've been following your progress on various threads... I really admire your discipline! :-)
41 posted on 09/27/2003 3:18:06 PM PDT by nutmeg ("The DemocRATic party...has been hijacked by a confederacy of gangsters..." - Pat Caddell, 11/27/00)
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To: kaylar
"It is not "Therapeutic" to be unable to buy new clothes AT ALL because the smallest sizes fit like tents."

Isn't that the truth! I recently gave up on finding a skirt or dress slacks because after trying on everything at the low end of the size rack, they still fell off of me. I don't think of myself as all that tiny, but I guess the world got large around me.

I have the same problem in finding clothes for our 10 year old son. He's on the tall side, and very slim, especially in the hips. Even slim cut jeans don't always fit him. There are lots of generously-cut clothes for chunky kids, but not much for slender ones. It really eats up a lot of time when you can't rely on the labels to be even close to the expected size. Like many boys his age, he really doesn't like to shop either, so it can be quite difficult.

42 posted on 09/27/2003 3:22:10 PM PDT by Think free or die
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To: Eagle Eye
What? They can lay blue eggs as well as the standard offwhite/silver ones?

Yeah, but they cost extra.

43 posted on 09/27/2003 3:25:58 PM PDT by DeFault User
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To: najida
Like I said, I can go as high as a 12 (in pants) and as low as an 8 in dresses.

One of the best lines on clothes I ever heard was from Barbara Bush. She was asked what she and Nancy Reagan had in common. She replied, "Nancy Reagan is a size 4 {pause}. My left leg is a size 4."

44 posted on 09/27/2003 3:30:35 PM PDT by DeFault User
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To: kitkat
Is 'missy" a term actually used somewhere? "Misses" is what I've always seen. I agree that "missy" sounds like someone is saying, "And YOU, missy, you better behave."

My college room mate worked as a buyer in retail in DC and they definitely referred to it as MISSY. that is why i think it sounds queer! the ONLY usage should be when saying "as for YOU, missy..." ; )

45 posted on 09/27/2003 3:35:28 PM PDT by xsmommy
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To: kitkat
"I have a whole bunch of petite-sized blouses and sweaters which fit me just fine since the length from the neck to the waist isn't an issue."

I've found that, while I wear petite blouses better, I can wear a misses blouse. But, if the blouse is fitted, I can't wear a misses blouse at all because they are too long waisted for me.

46 posted on 09/27/2003 4:14:57 PM PDT by dixiechick2000 ("Our Al-Mighty will whip your Al-Qaeda."---jigsaw..... Too true, and too clever, to be retired.)
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To: kaylar
"For those of us who haven't gotten larger through the years..."

Some of us don't want to wear the same styles that Britney wears, either.

Being petite, and of a certain age, I refuse to wear low-rise jeans and skin tight mid-drift tops.

I did that in the '70s...;o)

47 posted on 09/27/2003 4:42:04 PM PDT by dixiechick2000 ("Our Al-Mighty will whip your Al-Qaeda."---jigsaw..... Too true, and too clever, to be retired.)
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To: Nam Vet
Anything chocolate will usually cure what ails you.

It's the nectar of the Gods.

Please, pass the cake. ;o)

48 posted on 09/27/2003 4:44:39 PM PDT by dixiechick2000 ("Our Al-Mighty will whip your Al-Qaeda."---jigsaw..... Too true, and too clever, to be retired.)
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To: kaylar
I like the inseam system too. I'm really tall (5'10") with long legs and I usually need "Tall" pants so that they don't hit me mid-calf. But some talls dragged on the ground and others would barely reach my ankle bone!

I was forever either trying to shrink them in the dryer or hauling them out when still wet and standing on the cuffs pulling them to give them an extra inch or two.

LQ
49 posted on 09/27/2003 5:46:21 PM PDT by LizardQueen
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To: najida
I'm generally a size 4... tried on a skirt today that was labeled a 3, and it fell off of my hips! I wonder if that now means I am a 1! The last time I was a 1, I was fourteen.
50 posted on 09/27/2003 5:48:48 PM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife ("Life isn't fair. It's fairer than death, is all.")
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To: dixiechick2000
The missy department where I was today, definitely were clothes made for younger women. I cannot imagine my sixty-four year old mother putting on one of those mid-thigh miniskirts. (Not every woman thinks that Jackie Stallone dresses age-appropriately!)
51 posted on 09/27/2003 5:53:05 PM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife ("Life isn't fair. It's fairer than death, is all.")
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To: Nam Vet
your post and tagline are both great!
52 posted on 09/27/2003 5:58:11 PM PDT by drhogan
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To: dixiechick2000
Low rise pants are an invention of the Devil..Or at least , of a clothing designer who hates women. No matter how long a woman's legs, or how flat is her belly, low rise pants make her look like she has no legs, a big long torso, and a flabby belly. Hideous!
53 posted on 09/27/2003 8:15:39 PM PDT by kaylar
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To: kaylar
Not so! I am sure that Belly-girl could deliver if there were just some current pics.
54 posted on 09/27/2003 8:17:33 PM PDT by kcar (T)
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To: kcar
"Belly Girl"????Is that the leftist chick (2 of them, actually) screaming at the camera, in low rise jeans and halter tops, no bras, and lotsa cellulite and flab? I 've seen that photo at least on a lot of threads.
55 posted on 09/27/2003 8:19:25 PM PDT by kaylar
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To: kaylar
Freepers with a pic-library please help me here. No, she is definitely a right-wing phenonmena.
56 posted on 09/27/2003 8:21:55 PM PDT by kcar (T)
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To: kcar
Oh, the blonde? I remember her now, but her low risers weren't as extreme as the leftist screechers . Gawd, they were hideous!
57 posted on 09/27/2003 8:25:28 PM PDT by kaylar
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To: kaylar
I was shocked and dismayed, frankly.
58 posted on 09/27/2003 8:27:42 PM PDT by kcar (T)
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To: kaylar; kcar
Belly-Girl was the poster girl (Conservative) for the Iraq war daily threads. She is cute, with the right political mind-set, but....

Can't hold a candle to Patti Ann Yum-Yum on Fox. (^ ;

Nam Vet

59 posted on 09/27/2003 11:23:57 PM PDT by Nam Vet (It may be that your sole purpose in life is simply to serve as a warning to others.)
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