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Sex-Starved Marriages - Women Struggle to Cope With Spouses' Low Sex Drives
ABC News ^ | 09/26/03 | John Stossel

Posted on 09/26/2003 1:51:14 PM PDT by bedolido

Sept. 26— On your wedding day you assume you'll have a long future together filled with love, intimacy, maybe kids, and of course, sex. Cheryl Wolfe assumed sex would be part of her marriage.

Watch John Stossel's full report on 20/20 this Friday at 10 p.m.

She was mistaken. "Marriage was never consummated … The day we got married there was no sexual relationship at all, no honeymoon night and from that point forward — nothing," Wolfe said.

She isn't alone. Marriage therapists estimate as many as 20 percent of couples are mired in low-sex or no-sex marriages, and surprisingly often it's the men, heterosexual men, who don't want sex. Wolfe ultimately left her husband because he lost sexual interest in her.

Men's Low Sex Drive Rarely Discussed

Lori and Jim Barrett and Suzan and Chris Cummings — two couples who say their marriages are in trouble because they rarely have sex — bravely agreed to talk with 20/20 about it, and then to work with marriage therapist Michele Weiner-Davis to see if they could make things better.

In both cases it's the women who are frustrated that their sexual needs aren't being met by their husbands.

Barrett said, "I feel like we're living like brother and sister, because we don't have sex. I'm like what kind of relationship is this? This is awful."

Jim Barrett's someone people might call a manly guy. He's a motorcycle enthusiast, and a volunteer firefighter. He says sex has simply never been a high priority for him. He and Lori have two children, and they do have sex maybe (10 times a year,) which is too seldom for Lori, but plenty for Jim. He says sex has just never been that important to him.

But it is important to Lori and to Suzan Cummings.

Susan says sex is the "foundation" of a marriage. "It's not sharing the bank account, and the car, and the toilet," she said.

Suzan and Chris Cummings have been married for six years. She has a daughter by a previous marriage and together, she and Chris have a son, Connor. Susan says sex was infrequent before Connor was born and afterward, Chris seemed less and less interested. Now it's been 15 months since they've had sex.

Chris says he doesn't see why sex has to be such a big deal. In fact, he's happy in their marriage without the sex. "From my perspective it's wonderful. I would say that if sex wasn't important for Susan, if she never wanted to have sex again, I think, I would probably be very happy," he said.

The Barretts' and Cummings' problems aren't surprising to Davis, who's been counseling couples for two decades and is author of Sex-Starved Marriage.

"I'm convinced that low desire in men is America's best kept secret," Davis said.

According to Davis, women in low-sex marriages tend to think their situation is unique. "They start to wonder whether they're the only women in the world who are married to guys who aren't following them around the house with a permanent erection," she said.

Lori Barrett said her husband's lack of desire has been tough on her self image. "First it was for me almost like, 'What's wrong with you,' … and then I was like, 'What's wrong with me — he doesn't want me!'"

Davis said it's common for the partner who's not getting their sexual needs met to feel unwanted or unloved. "When this major disconnect happens," Davis said, "intimacy on all levels tends to drop out, and it puts the marriage in a danger zone."

Bedroom Troubles Boil Over

When one partner is unhappy in the bedroom, it often creates tension that spills into other aspects of the marriage.

The Barretts agreed to let 20/20 put a camera in their home, and sure enough, there was a lot of bickering going on.

Jim said he feels like he's walking around the house on eggshells. Lori and Jim both say it's usually Lori who's on Jim's case.

Lori thinks there'd be less tension in their marriage if there were more sexual intimacy in it. She begged Jim to go to a doctor to have his testosterone levels checked and see if his problem is physical. He won't do it.

"Yeah, let's send Jim to the doctor. He's broke," he said. But he doesn't think there's anything wrong with him physically. He thinks it's an issue of trust, and that he can't just be himself.

They're caught in a trap. Lack of sex makes Lori frustrated, and Jim says he's not in the mood for sex because Lori is so critical. If she weren't so critical, Jim says, he might be turned on to his wife.

"Things'd be a lot more relaxed and we'd probably be a lot closer. Yeah. We'd probably have a lot better physical relationship," he said.

Don't Ignore the Problem

There are many factors that can cause low desire in men, say the experts. It might be anger toward a spouse or a physical issue, but all say whatever the cause, the worst thing to do is nothing — especially when sex is a priority for your partner — as it is for Suzan Cummings.

Chris says he loves Suzan but he worries about not being able to please her sexually. He says he always suffered some level of performance anxiety, and it's only gotten worse over time.

He tried Viagra, but it didn't work. Chris hasn't initiated sex with Suzan in about three years and he says it's gotten to the point he's afraid to initiate any physical contact with Suzan.

"At this point," he said, "the kissing and the hugging and the holding, has kind of signified, has come to signify the, desire to go farther."

Chris's fear of having sex with Suzan is pretty ironic since she works as an exotic dancer. She performs at a strip club, where men pay big bucks to watch women strut around in sexual ways. Suzan is one of the star attractions — lots of men come to the club just to see her. At one time Chris was one of them. That's how they met.

Chris says he still finds Suzan sexually attractive but his anxiety dampens his desire for her.

But he hasn't entirely lost his sex drive. He says "it gets satisfied through masturbation."

Chris says he knows his predicament sounds odd. "I realize that obviously I look like a schmuck on TV. It's extremely humiliating to get up and speak publicly about the fact that I'm not good in bed or that I can't satisfy my wife. I'm not proud of it," he said.

Suzan says she used to try reaching out to Chris sexually, but she's given that up. She said it was painful for her to feel rejected by her husband. "I value myself, um my sexuality as a woman. And to have it turned down over and over repeatedly says you have no value as a sexual being. … I need to feel loved. And I feel loved through sexual contact."

Suzan said the practical aspects of their relationship works fine, but overall she feels the relationship is cold and lonely.

Watching them at home with 20/20 cameras, it sure looked that way. There was no physical affection, and barely any interaction between them. It was almost as if they were leading parallel lives. After dinner Chris went downstairs to play video games, while Suzan sat by herself at the computer, surfing the Web.

Suzan said this is what happens night after night. "That's the exciting life of a stripper on her days off," she said.

More importantly, Suzan said she thinks there's a good chance they'll break up if things don't change.

Working It Out

Davis sat down with the Barretts, and Lori quickly revealed how deep her sense of rejections runs.

"Growing up I had a family an extended family that was constantly teasing me about how I looked and it really hurt me a lot, and so when I had my husband … this person I felt loved me, married me, and then did the same thing, rejected me. It's been very, very hard."

For Jim, hearing Lori say she felt unloved, rather than just barking at him, provides a different perspective, says Davis. "That's the catalyst for change, to truly understand what your partner is feeling, to be in their hearts, rather than to sit as so many couples do and point fingers," Davis said.

Davis says it's important for high-desire partners like Lori to understand that some people just have low sex drives and her husband is probably one of them What Jim has to do, she says, is to act sexually toward Lori even at first if he's not in the mood for sex. She says low-desire partners should try to just do it. Use it or lose it.

According to Davis, "The more a person is sexually active, the more it actually stimulates testosterone production, which is one of the primary hormones responsible for sex drive."

In Suzan and Chris's case, that's not so easy, because Chris now is afraid he can't perform. He knows it hurts Suzan. During their session with Davis, Suzan told Chris, "I don't understand how you can you love me, and not be there for me physically. How you could let me feel that way about myself?"

Davis' advice to them is to start touching each other affectionately with the understanding, at first, that they will not have sex. That will take pressure off Chris. Suzan said she'd be happy just to have simple affection, and Chris said he was surprised and relieved to hear that would be enough.

A month later, things were definitely better for Lori and Jim. He had initiated more sexual contact, and she said she made an effort not to nag.

Suzan and Chris were happier too. "First of all we're having sex," Chris said, "Not as much as we'd like, but that's the biggest fundamental change."

They needed another counseling session with Davis before Chris could really relax and feel it was OK to touch Suzan without it leading to intercourse and the fear of failure that gave him.

The couple says their renewed intimacy has brought other benefits.

Suzan said, "You feel good about yourself. When you feel good about yourself you can show love to your partner. You know it might not last forever until you're 90 but it gives you a warm, loving basis to go on, you know you feel loved."

For more information on Michele Weiner-Davis, visit her Web site at www.DivorceBusting.com.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: drives; imarriedagayguy; marriages; sex; sexstarved; spouses; women
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To: Darksheare
Is there really such a thing that exists?
181 posted on 09/26/2003 4:17:24 PM PDT by Chad Fairbanks (I like my women like I like my coffee - Hot, and in a big cup.)
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To: proud American in Canada
Gone?
Seeing that in bed would make my libido shrivel up, spin around, fall off, and hide in another country under an assumed name.
182 posted on 09/26/2003 4:18:08 PM PDT by Darksheare (I will not _____the Dems. I will not_____the Dems. I will not _____the Dems. I will not_____the Dems)
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To: Chad Fairbanks
Uh.. I'm not sure.
I've never seen one, but I have heard they exist.
Like stress cards in the military.
183 posted on 09/26/2003 4:19:00 PM PDT by Darksheare (I will not _____the Dems. I will not_____the Dems. I will not _____the Dems. I will not_____the Dems)
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To: ravingnutter
I can't post what I think of that without getting slapped by the mods, especially the one who said his wife was too fat to be attractive anymore.
Yeah, the mod who said that tends to slap pretty hard.

j/k

184 posted on 09/26/2003 4:19:54 PM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: Darksheare
Maybe we need to go on a quest. Our 7 year mission: to boldly find what no man has found before; to seek out women who like sex; etc...
185 posted on 09/26/2003 4:20:38 PM PDT by Chad Fairbanks (I like my women like I like my coffee - Hot, and in a big cup.)
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To: Darksheare
Where can I find a woman who actually LIKES sex?

With you, you mean? :-)

Seriously, though, there are plenty of married women who thoroughly enjoy sex...with their husbands, of course. The reason you don't hear about them is that they're not complaining, and neither are their husbands.

186 posted on 09/26/2003 4:21:52 PM PDT by wimpycat (Down with Kooks and Kookery!)
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To: ravingnutter
Or, alternativly, you could ignore the replies from people who have opinions you strongly disagree with, and only interact with those who are debating it seriously.

Just a thought. :0)
187 posted on 09/26/2003 4:22:22 PM PDT by Chad Fairbanks (I like my women like I like my coffee - Hot, and in a big cup.)
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To: Interious
"I'm certainly not compelled to end the marriage over the issue, though it does take some control to keep from straying."

Wow, well thank you, Interious, for giving a serious, thoughtful answer to this thread. The subject matter is easy joke fodder. :(

I'll pray for you and your wife, that you find your way back to each other.

Okay, I'll share a bit, since this is a private conversation. ;) From what I can tell, if spouses get too busy, or whatever, and take a break from sex, it seems like it's too hard to approach the other one. The distance becomes an impassable chasm, as time goes on.

So the treatment is: make a deal, that you will be with each other, and have sex, every day for at least a week, no matter how tired you are. You'll feel closer and happier, I guarantee it. For example, certain hormones are released during orgasm that make people feel closer (oxytocin, for example).

I won't go into any more specifics than that, but sexual relations between husband and wife is a gift from God. We shouldn't reject it.
188 posted on 09/26/2003 4:23:19 PM PDT by proud American in Canada ("We are a peaceful people. Yet we are not a fragile people.")
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To: mlmr
#18
BINGO!
I was married to a wonderfull man who had all three "habits".
I would rather be single and celibate, than married and celibate.
189 posted on 09/26/2003 4:23:21 PM PDT by sarasmom (Pray for Terri Schiavo.Pray harder.Please!)
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To: BnBlFlag
I think some enterprising person here should start FreeperMatch.com or something. I'm busy, but would sign up.

This would be the capitalistic, humanistic and moral thing to do.
190 posted on 09/26/2003 4:23:21 PM PDT by gipper81
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To: Centurion2000
The cunning warrior always has a backup weapon .... any more detail would get me banned so there. :P
You are quite the linguist ;-)
191 posted on 09/26/2003 4:23:56 PM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: ValerieUSA
Why does the sex drive decrease in diabetics?
192 posted on 09/26/2003 4:25:09 PM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife ("Life isn't fair. It's fairer than death, is all.")
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To: ValerieUSA
"If I marry again and ever find myself in a sibling type relationship with my husband, I am divorcing him. That is not marriage."

Valerie, I'm so sad to hear that. It must be incredibly difficult. :( No, spouses are not meant to be siblings.

I hope things get better for you at some point.
193 posted on 09/26/2003 4:27:09 PM PDT by proud American in Canada ("We are a peaceful people. Yet we are not a fragile people.")
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To: wimpycat
Well, I'm married, and I'm complaining.
Being told that "It's not sex if the other guy doesn't 'finish' during the act" really puts a damper on things.
*ugh!*

Odd thing, she doesn't want to leave.
194 posted on 09/26/2003 4:27:14 PM PDT by Darksheare (I will not _____the Dems. I will not_____the Dems. I will not _____the Dems. I will not_____the Dems)
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To: Darksheare
Where can I find a woman who actually LIKES sex?

Forget it...we MARRIED them already. Good luck foraging for scraps amongst the man-hating feminist harpies our education system are spewing out in wholesale numbers. Or, like I do with cars; buy foreign! :-)

195 posted on 09/26/2003 4:27:38 PM PDT by who knows what evil? (Under the personal care of the Great Physician...full coverage.)
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To: MotleyGirl70
Measure it? Please tell me guys don't really do that!

I can't speak for others, but no, we dont' measure it. We use it to measure. Why do you ask?

196 posted on 09/26/2003 4:28:42 PM PDT by Chad Fairbanks (I like my women like I like my coffee - Hot, and in a big cup.)
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To: Chad Fairbanks
Maybe we can find some sort of raygun that will help kickstart a stalled libido, or crash teh shuttle on an Amozonian warrior woman planet..
Be kidnapped by..
Nevermind.

Let's just start the mission already.
197 posted on 09/26/2003 4:28:47 PM PDT by Darksheare (I will not _____the Dems. I will not_____the Dems. I will not _____the Dems. I will not_____the Dems)
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To: who knows what evil?
Someone switched the woman I married with an anti-sex-with-your-own-spouse robot clone simulant!
The fiends!!
198 posted on 09/26/2003 4:29:42 PM PDT by Darksheare (I will not _____the Dems. I will not_____the Dems. I will not _____the Dems. I will not_____the Dems)
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To: Darksheare
Try once every six months, usually due to a combination of male alcoholism,masturbation, and an obsession with pornography.

I guess in your view, men are always perfect, and the evil women ruin everything.

I dont bash men as a rule.I love men, as a species.
Can you say the same about women?
199 posted on 09/26/2003 4:31:15 PM PDT by sarasmom (Pray for Terri Schiavo.Pray harder.Please!)
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To: Darksheare
Who's the "other guy" you're referring to? You or her? Or both?
200 posted on 09/26/2003 4:31:31 PM PDT by wimpycat (Down with Kooks and Kookery!)
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