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To: Rabid Republican
How about responding to the orginal article. Is the G.O.P. being honest to its constituency about its support of its believes and platforms? And if it isn't, shouldn't it have the guts to say so?

Tip O'Neill (though a liberal) had it right when he said, "All politics is local". The national GOP platform is pretty meaningless in California if the majority of voting Californians think that it's too extreme. If you want to lose elections, you can continue to alienate the electorate. If you want the big tent, you have to build one. Why are some Conservatives so thick when it comes to this point?
131 posted on 09/26/2003 1:19:58 PM PDT by Bush2000
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To: Bush2000
Fine - just publish what the Tent Poles are constructed of - and if they changed construction material.

Any other approach is dishonest.
142 posted on 09/26/2003 1:23:19 PM PDT by Rabid Dog
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To: Bush2000
Why are some Conservatives so thick when it comes to this point?

I think they think that if they had all the conservatives support that their candidate would win somehow. They don';t seem to understand that even if they had 100% GOP support they will still lose in CA.

In a state like Texas they would be correct. The average consrevative should be electable and it would be nonsense to elect someone with Arnolds bonafides but thats not the case in CA.

I also think they believe that if the rest of the conservatives would just go along with them and support McClintock that somehow the momentum of that would cause the mushy middle to run over and vote for him also. I don' think they see how that dynamic would energize the left more and make their turnout become higher in fear that a dyed-in-the-wool conservative would be elected.

149 posted on 09/26/2003 1:27:23 PM PDT by VRWC_minion (Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and most are right)
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To: Bush2000
Bush2000, whose flag is set to the great state of Washington, wrote:

Tip O'Neill (though a liberal) had it right when he said, "All politics is local".

If we agree with that, then can we safely ignore out of state opinions? ;-)

162 posted on 09/26/2003 1:35:19 PM PDT by SteveH ((Californians for, like, you know, Moon Unit!!!))
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To: Bush2000
Tip O'Neill (though a liberal) had it right when he said, "All politics is local". The national GOP platform is pretty meaningless in California if the majority of voting Californians think that it's too extreme. If you want to lose elections, you can continue to alienate the electorate. If you want the big tent, you have to build one. Why are some Conservatives so thick when it comes to this point?

You are correct. The national GOP platform has nothing to do with it. The CA GOP has its own platform, thank you very much. That is the issue.

Arnold supporters seem not to realize that they are talking to many battle-hardened, in-the-trenches campaign veterans. We know what games are being played here. If the big-money groups that are trying to take the party left succeed, they will do so without our time, money, and votes. We know that they are repeating the mistakes of the past. If they succeed, the Republican party will be in the wilderness for 40 years. But as long as they still can wield their power and influence in the capitol, they could not care less about the California people.

235 posted on 09/26/2003 2:14:53 PM PDT by djreece (Conservative first, Republican second)
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