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The Clintons are DESPERATE to keep California under DNC control and the GOP is struggling to make sure they don't. It would be awfully nice for Tom and supporters to take that into account themselves.

Clintons are desperate to have the recall fail. Tell me Tam, how many stops has the Rodham/Clinton team made for Bustamante? The recall is a bad precident against liberal tax and spend policies, but as for Bush in 2004, a Democrate in there is good for Bush, and they are far more aware of that then you have shown yourself to be. You asked me as a supporter to take what you said into account. I have, now study this map real hard.

I said the Clintons are desperate to keep California under the DNC... and you twist that and ask how many stops they've made for Bustabudget? Well, none... but that's irrelevant unless you are trying to distort something there. They have, however, been helping and campaigning for Davis as you well know, don't you? :-)

Additionally, your map is pretty but also irrelevant. I don't recall folks saying that Arnold will deliver California to Bush, merely that it would force the DNC to actually spend time and resources there in 2004 when they don't have to now. Even if Arnold can't give Bush the votes in California, it will force the DNC to use resources there that they would rather use in more borderline states.

Lastly, again that map is pretty... but it is comparing apples to asparagus. You showed states with your self-determined definition of RINO governors that went to Gore, and then you showed states with Dem governors that went to Bush. To show any meaning between the two, you need to show states with RINO governors that went to Bush. That IS what your supposed point is.... Arnold as a RINO and whether it will help CA go to Bush. Funny that you would completely leave that out of your graphic.

Liberal Republicans in liberal states - what sort of Republican could you elect in those places ? And with a liberal population, there is some surprise they voted for Gore, in such a close election ?

Conservative Democrats in conservative states - ditto.

It is not the party or the politicians mostly to blame for all this - it is the people. Republicans should elect who they can, not be content to run noble losers.