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To: Spiff
I am getting VERY TIRED of hearing (reading) people call Arny a liberal or a RINO.

An ardent, died in the wool conservative, he is not; but, by the same token he is NOT a liberal. He is, admittedly, a bit left of center, but his views on many, many things is downright anathema to the left.

ANYONE who listened to the debate last night saw a member of the far left (Camejo), two liberals (Busty and the B***h), one non-liberal, non-rightist (Arny), and one ardent conservative (Tom Mc).

So, EVERYONE, stop with the BS about Arny being a liberal or a RINO. Vote for or against him, but at least BE FAIR!!
88 posted on 09/25/2003 4:02:28 PM PDT by fqued (Arma virumque cano)
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To: fqued
Unfair? LOL...Arnold calls himself a liberal.
90 posted on 09/25/2003 4:03:47 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Call upon God to move on our behalf...)
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To: fqued
Hmm, lets see. Pro-Guncontrol, Pro-abortion, Pro-Gay benefits, Pro-Illegal-alien Amnesty, Pro-Socialism(for da kids) have I missed anything? Oh yes, he does have that one redeeming quality of saying he will not raise taxes(Not-Promising mind ya), just saying. Well shucks I guess you are right then he isn't a Liberal or a RINO, how does Liberal-RINO-Socalist sound?
96 posted on 09/25/2003 4:09:23 PM PDT by JustAnAmerican
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To: fqued
"Conservatives were wary of Schwarzenegger even before Tax 'em and Kill 'em Buffett joined the campaign. Schwarzenegger claims to be a fiscal conservative and a liberal on social issues. Historically, that means: "liberal."" - Ann Coulter

"Here me now and believe me later, my friends: all these conservative orgasms over Arnold Schwarzenegger are – like the 'Gorbasms' liberals experienced over Mikhail Sergeevich Gorbachev – fake. I know that 'R' next to Schwarzenegger's name excites the White House, but his own words prove he's not a conservative. I call this 'The Hollywood Syndrome,' and it happens every time some actor-type says anything even remotely conservative. I'm not trying to cold shower anybody here, but don't look to anyone in Hollywood to validate your political ideas." - Rush Limbaugh

Just what are those views that prove that Arnold is a liberal? Here they are again:

A liberal by any other name is still a liberal. A Republican who does not believe in Republican values is still a RINO. You can paint a liberal in moderate colors, put an (R) after his name, but he's still a liberal.

Oh, Arnold may not be quite as liberal as the liberal extremists you saw on stage with him last night, but nevertheless he holds a majority of liberal positions and is therefore a liberal.

I know you and others don't like the fact that he is a liberal. But, he is.

He's certainly no conservative. That argument died here log ago after I and other posters started posting his very unconservative views. Now the prevailing argument here is that Arnold is a "moderate" or "centrist" or not as liberal as the other liberals. Well, actually the prevailing argument is "McClintock is unelectable", but if you get an Arniebot to go further than that (which is rare) he'll argume the former points as if they are even laudable.

123 posted on 09/25/2003 4:23:57 PM PDT by Spiff (Have you committed one random act of thoughtcrime today?)
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To: fqued
I am getting VERY TIRED of hearing (reading) people call Arny a liberal or a RINO.

Well if Arnie is not a RINO, Clinton is a CONSERVATIVE!!!

144 posted on 09/25/2003 4:33:41 PM PDT by pollywog
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