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To: South40
"Keeping cruz bustamante from becoming California's next governor is what's best for both. Tom staying in and helping elect cruz doesn't help either."

Playing into the fictional problems posed by Tom's presence are what is best for liberals and I must say this message board is alive with this stuff. I cannot tell you how many people I know (and I have friends that are not lockstep with me...) that are waiting becuase they are too scared to vote for McClintock becuase we might "elect Busty". If the people of California are torn between a "consistent" conservative like Tom McClintock, and a "claimed" conservative like Arnold, then maybe "Tough Love" is in order.

Here's to hoping for 2006 when people might get their heads out of their collcetive a%%es after 3 years of "tough love" becuase true, uncompromising conservatives who vote for Tom are not the problem. The negotiators and the moderates within the "Party" are however...
122 posted on 09/25/2003 4:23:54 PM PDT by ProtectorOfTwo (......)
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To: ProtectorOfTwo
"maybe "Tough Love" is in order. "

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Funny! That is exactly what we are going to get with Bustamante, by people voting for McC and splitting the vote.
Cruz named his platform of more taxes "Tough Love".
129 posted on 09/25/2003 4:27:37 PM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: ProtectorOfTwo
What are you in your early to mid-twenties? It shows.

Playing into the fictional problems posed by Tom's presence are what is best for liberals and I must say this message board is alive with this stuff.

Fictional? What sort of deluded mind can't or doesn't see the very real scenario where a split Republican vote elects a racist like cruz? Do you really think you are right and most every political mind in the country is wrong? Wow. I've seen blind devotion to Tom many times over but you take the cake.

I cannot tell you how many people I know (and I have friends that are not lockstep with me...) that are waiting becuase they are too scared to vote for McClintock becuase we might "elect Busty". If the people of California are torn between a "consistent" conservative like Tom McClintock, and a "claimed" conservative like Arnold, then maybe "Tough Love" is in order.

I'm happy to hear that. But the problem lies in how many haven't waited and have wasted their vote on a loser which can only help cruz. But, that's right. You don't get that. So be it.

Here's to hoping for 2006 when people might get their heads out of their collcetive a%%es after 3 years of "tough love" becuase true, uncompromising conservatives who vote for Tom are not the problem. The negotiators and the moderates within the "Party" are however...

Again you show your ignorance. I am far from moderate. I do understand, however, as do many, the importance of preventing a bustamante win. It's really that simple. I'm sure you'll get it one day, probably if and when cruz further destroys this state. And if and when that happens, remember one thing...your blind devotion to a loser contributed in making it possible.

156 posted on 09/25/2003 4:39:27 PM PDT by South40 (Vote Mcclintock, elect bustamante)
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To: ProtectorOfTwo
Conservatives are such a small minority in California that there will not be a 2006 on your terms. The culture will not be turned around in that time.
165 posted on 09/25/2003 4:42:40 PM PDT by buwaya
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To: ProtectorOfTwo
If the people of California are torn between a "consistent" conservative like Tom McClintock, and a "claimed" conservative like Arnold, then maybe "Tough Love" is in order.

We voted for Simon less than a year ago. He lost to Davis by about five percent. We tried it your way, how about joining us and Bill Simon and trying it our way?
483 posted on 09/26/2003 12:50:07 AM PDT by kingu (Tom or Arnold, it doesn't matter if Davis wins the recall. Vote Yes on the Recall!)
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