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California recall: Does one man hold key? [McClintock]
Christian Science Monitor ^ | 9-25 | Christian Science Monitor

Posted on 09/25/2003 2:54:50 PM PDT by ambrose

The Christian Science Monitor - csmonitor.com

from the September 26, 2003 edition - http://www.csmonitor.com/2003/0926/p01s03-uspo.html

California recall: Does one man hold key?

Tom McClintock, top GOP conservative, could tilt race for or against Arnold Schwarzenegger.

By Daniel B. Wood | Staff writer of The Christian Science Monitor

BURBANK, CALIF. - Republican candidate Tom McClintock laughs from deep in the belly when asked if he will be the "spoiler" in the great populist revolution/experiment/circus of California's gubernatorial recall election.

"My opponents say I'm the Ross Perot of this campaign, possibly siphoning off enough votes to hand the election to Democrats," he says, settling onto a shady park bench for an interview. "I say, 'Wait a minute.... Ross Perot was an idle millionaire, with no public-policy experience who one day on a whim entered the presidential race.' That sounds like another candidate in this race ... not me," he says, referring to muscleman/millionaire Arnold Schwarzenegger.

Once a mere asterisk in the con- fused calculus of California's 135-candidate recall election, Mr. McClintock has gradually emerged as the strong, third-place vote getter in polls - rising (at 14-to-18 points) while the two leaders - fellow Republican Schwarzenegger (26 points) and Democratic Lt. Gov. Cruz Bustamante (28 points) - tread water.

As the race enters its final stretch, McClintock's motives and acts are becoming paramount for two reasons. One, splitting the Republican vote, he could cost the party its best chance in a decade of high, statewide office. Two, his candidacy could drag down the success of the recall itself by forcing Republican partisans to reconsider driving Gov. Gray Davis from office because of fear that they could hand the office to a more liberal Democrat, Mr. Bustamante.

Ever since McClintock leaped from 4 percent voter support to double-digits about three weeks ago, the pressure has risen for him to stop offering himself as an alternative to Arnold Schwarzen-egger that could hand the election to Democrats. But as more voters get to know him, his poll numbers have continued to rise, while Schwarzenegger's are flat.

More conservative than Schwarzenegger on social issues - abortion, gay marriage, gun control - he is also far more experienced in fiscal matters, with California's sagging economy the No. 1 issue.

"He is by far the most studied and experienced of all the candidates in fiscal issues and how to implement public policy," says Jack Pitney, political scientist at Claremont McKenna College. "If the election were a college SAT test, McClintock would be the next governor hands down."

Even though he is widely acknowledged as the more knowledgeable, the more articulate, and the more detailed idea-man, 25-year government veteran McClintock does not have the millions of dollars of his chief Republican rival, nor his name recognition. Therein lies one of the chief ironies of the recall: Does he/should he/will he step aside to allow the neophyte challenger - and the Republican party - to gain its best chance of victory?

"He is a man who stands on his word and his principles while claiming time and again that he is in this to the last," says Doug Jeffe, a longtime California political consultant. "If he did get out, it would be totally uncharacteristic of him."

Now, with Schwarzenegger and Bustamante in a near dead heat, one leading Republican, Darrell Issa, the millionaire who bankrolled the signature gathering to oust Davis, has said that if Schwarzenegger or McClintock don't back off, Republicans should vote "no" on the recall. Polls show that if Arnold backed out, McClintock could not win.

But McClintock rejects a widespread analysis that conservative candidates have brought Republican fortunes to their low ebb. He feels the current crisis is the perfect storm for their historic comeback.

"Great parties are built on great principles," says McClintock, referring to the pillars of conservative policy: holding down taxes, cutting waste, standing up for the unborn, and resisting government approval of gay unions. "This is not a time to change our principles."

While such comments win kudos from some for adherence to principle, they strike others as bullheaded.

"McClintock's constant megaphoning of conservative social agendas is presenting a real problem for Republicans who really like him for his fiscal experience," says William Schneider, a pollster and political analyst. "They know Tom has the smarts to get this state out of economic problems and they worry about Arnold's lack of experience and specificity. But they don't think Tom can win and can't resist the fact that Arnold could."

As a child, McClintock campaigned for Barry Goldwater at age 8. In high school he organized classmates into a statewide GOP group. A political-science graduate of UCLA, he became a syndicated columnist railing about former Democratic Gov. Jerry Brown, lauding the character of John Wayne. Hired by a former L.A. police chief-cum-state senator (Ed Davis), McClintock began a 25-year career in Sacramento, marked by opposition to Republican governors George Deukmejian and Pete Wilson over tax hikes and spending waste.

Despite his conservative stances, he was the top GOP vote-getter in the state, running for controller, in the 2002 election.

"I got very little from the state GOP and was outspent by my opponent by 5 to 1," says McClintock. "Despite all that, I lost by less than 1 percent of the vote."

A man who often quotes Reagan and Shakespeare, McClintock is considered a legislative loner with few legislative friends for his near two-decade pursuit of shrinking the state payroll.

In his favorite stump speech he tells why cutting is so important. As a child, he came home from school to find his mother crying over an unexpectedly high tax bill. The moment has lived in his imagination ever since that government takes too much from citizens and delivers too little.

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To: EternalVigilance
EV, I have taken some shots at you but I do know that you are one of the good guys around here. I also know that Bush was your second choice but when the rubber hit the road , you were, and continue to be,a strong advocate for him on FR.
481 posted on 09/26/2003 12:40:11 AM PDT by Texasforever
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To: Texasforever
Hey, thanks. Truly appreciated.
482 posted on 09/26/2003 12:49:44 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (Call upon God to move on our behalf...)
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To: ProtectorOfTwo
If the people of California are torn between a "consistent" conservative like Tom McClintock, and a "claimed" conservative like Arnold, then maybe "Tough Love" is in order.

We voted for Simon less than a year ago. He lost to Davis by about five percent. We tried it your way, how about joining us and Bill Simon and trying it our way?
483 posted on 09/26/2003 12:50:07 AM PDT by kingu (Tom or Arnold, it doesn't matter if Davis wins the recall. Vote Yes on the Recall!)
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To: buwaya
Total contempt for conservatives ? The Republicans ? Jeez.

Karl Rove and the state GOP wanted to make Richard Riordan governor.

You're a Californian, so tell me -- is Riordan a conservative?

484 posted on 09/26/2003 12:55:02 AM PDT by L.N. Smithee (Just because I don't think like you doesn't mean I don't think for myself)
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To: Texasforever
(and Dutch gave up acting)

;-)
485 posted on 09/26/2003 12:56:11 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (Call upon God to move on our behalf...)
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To: L.N. Smithee
Karl Rove and the state GOP wanted to make Richard Riordan governor. You're a Californian, so tell me -- is Riordan a conservative?

Riordan lost the primary, we gathered together for the Governor's election. We voted for Simon less than a year ago. He lost to Davis by about five percent. We tried it your way, how about joining us and Bill Simon and trying it our way?
486 posted on 09/26/2003 12:56:37 AM PDT by kingu (Tom or Arnold, it doesn't matter if Davis wins the recall. Vote Yes on the Recall!)
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To: kingu
Riordan lost the primary, we gathered together for the Governor's election.

You didn't have a choice. Conservatives kicked RINOrdan's butt out.

We voted for Simon less than a year ago. He lost to Davis by about five percent. We tried it your way, how about joining us and Bill Simon and trying it our way?

What way is "our way?" Please explain.

And don't forget my original question: Is Riordan a conservative?

487 posted on 09/26/2003 1:24:43 AM PDT by L.N. Smithee (Just because I don't think like you doesn't mean I don't think for myself)
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To: L.N. Smithee
What way is "our way?" Please explain.

Our way, vote for Arnold. As Bill Simon suggested today when he threw his support behind Arnold.

And don't forget my original question: Is Riordan a conservative?

Of course Riordan isn't a conservative. I live far too close to Los Angeles to ever think that.
488 posted on 09/26/2003 1:42:09 AM PDT by kingu (Tom or Arnold, it doesn't matter if Davis wins the recall. Vote Yes on the Recall!)
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To: kingu
Of course Riordan isn't a conservative. I live far too close to Los Angeles to ever think that.

OK. Thanks.

My point was to answer the bewilderment of buwaya, who seemed to think it was ridiculous to suggest that the Republican Party is contemptuous of conservatives.

A national party that didn't have contempt for conservatives wouldn't have pushed Riordan for governor.

BTW, what's James Rogan doing nowadays?

489 posted on 09/26/2003 1:51:22 AM PDT by L.N. Smithee (Just because I don't think like you doesn't mean I don't think for myself)
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To: 68 grunt
Personal attack in 161. He's got a track record of those...
490 posted on 09/26/2003 4:23:40 AM PDT by NittanyLion (Go Tom Go!)
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To: 68 grunt
JOHN GALT? Have you even read the book?

Sure have. You may not have picked this up during your reading, but one of the book's essential points is Jim Taggart's outright terror at hearing John Galt's unyielding principles.

I see analogous actions here on this forum. Multiple people on this thread have claimed they listened to McClintock's interview today, he refused to compromise his principles, and they were "scared" of him.

491 posted on 09/26/2003 4:28:12 AM PDT by NittanyLion (Go Tom Go!)
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To: Kevin Curry
Greatness of spirit means he won't spoil this election for no reason.

30% Bustamante (Communist Party)
25% Arnold (Moderate Republican)
15% McClintock (Rock-Solid Republican)

What does the Rock-Solid Republican do in this case?

Give the election to the Communist ???

In your mind that would be Greatness of Spirit ???
492 posted on 09/26/2003 6:17:53 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: buwaya
"The true one will take sacrifice, hard work, patience and humility."

The true one? The Fifth Reich?

493 posted on 09/26/2003 6:37:09 AM PDT by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 0311, 68-69)
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To: BunnySlippers
Every politician on the State level is term-limited. That's a good thing. I listen to Larry Elder too.

It has been my experience on these threads that most of the people who are bad-mouthing Tom McClintock are:
1. Not Californians, or
2. Not knowlegable about McClintock's constituents
3. Do not understand or know about his positions on the issues, or
4. Are not conservative Republicans or Libertarians (or as Larry Elder calls them, "Republitarians").

Tom McClintock is on the right side of virtually every issue of importance to mainstream conservatives. The same cannot be said of the other major candidates to replace the Governor.

494 posted on 09/26/2003 8:31:34 AM PDT by capitan_refugio
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To: BibChr
BibChr -

One of the rules of the forum is "NO personal attacks." Name-calling is an ad hominem, personal attack, and is really the last resort of a poster who has nothing important to add to the discussion.

Furthermore, for a poster who likes to put scripture in his tagline, name-calling does not seem to me to be a very charitable, tolerant, or Christian thing to do.

495 posted on 09/26/2003 8:44:04 AM PDT by capitan_refugio
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To: capitan_refugio
Sometime, if you ever get around actually to reading the Bible, you'll find that there's no real problem with observing that a fool is a fool, a blasphemer is a blasphemer, a liar is a liar, etc.

Meanwhile, I made and demonstrated my point. Not a speck of contradiction. So I'll stand by it. Becoming a Christian did not destroy my observational powers.

Dan
496 posted on 09/26/2003 8:47:10 AM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: habs4ever
Tom's district delivers Republican votes, and lots of them. There is hardly an area in the newly redrawn district with over 40% Democrat registration (the big exception being the city of Santa Barbara at 48%).

In the California budget process, the State Senators hold a great deal of power, because 1/3rd can block a budget adoption (the first step to allocation of public funds and massive overspending). California has 40 State Senate district, each representing about 850,000 people. (That's more people than the population of the states of Alaska, Delaware, North Dakota, South Dakota, Vermont, and Wyoming, as well as the District of Columbia.) Currently 15 are Republican and 25 Democrats. 13 Senators can block the adoption of a budget. This line that McClintock doesn't get along with other legislators is hooey. The Republicans had to show unity to block Davis this past budget. McClintock does not play politics, however.

Every Californian owes McClintock a debt of gratitude for his efforts on restraining the profligate spending of the Democrats. He hasn't always won those battles, as some representatives eventually compromise on their principles and our wallets, but he has never voted to increase taxes. McClintock sounded the spending alarm several years ago and he continues to fight to preserve our liberties and rights as citizens.

What "perks" do you think the District is getting now, under the past five years of a Democrat governor, and the last 30 years of Democrat legislation??? And again, in case you missed it, even in the November 2002 election, when the top of the ticket (Bill Simon) ran such an inept campaign that it hurt all of the down-ticket candidates, McClintock came within a hair of winning his statewide race. It wasn't certified until they counted all of the absentee ballots. He was outspent 5:1 and came within 1% of victory. No Republican won statewide office in 2002. But if you look at the vote totals, Tom McClintock got more votes in November 2002 than any other Republican in the nation.

McClintock is the type of person you can trust with public office. I know from living in his districts for over 10 years. I can't say that about any of the other candidates. You are mistaking "vanity and arrogance" with "principle." In this day and age of "sound-bite politics" that is a mistake that is too often made.

497 posted on 09/26/2003 9:11:58 AM PDT by capitan_refugio
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To: FairOpinion
I'm in McClintock's district. I have heard or read nothing of the sort. Wishful thinking but by unthinking rumor-mongers.
498 posted on 09/26/2003 9:16:20 AM PDT by capitan_refugio
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To: EternalVigilance
Goldwater got progressively less conservative the older he got.

Must have been dementia. Most folks get more conservative the more maturity they attain.

Worse, he found a young thing, she pumped all the blood from his main brain down to his other brain.

499 posted on 09/26/2003 9:53:10 AM PDT by itsahoot (The lesser of two evils, is evil still...Alan Keyes)
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To: Jorge
I don't get it. Are you saying that it is better for a Dem to win? Than for a Republican to bend on any principle?

The problem is that it is not a single principle, that is getting bent, but every single social issue.

500 posted on 09/26/2003 9:55:58 AM PDT by itsahoot (The lesser of two evils, is evil still...Alan Keyes)
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