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Immigrants' Rights Drive Starts
The New York Times ^ | September 25, 2003 | STEVEN GREENHOUSE

Posted on 09/25/2003 1:45:50 PM PDT by sarcasm

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To: MonroeDNA
You are operating under the false premise that unions are

primarily concerned with, among other things, job protection. They are (almost always) not. They are primarily concerned with amassing dues. More warm bodies, more dues, voila, more political clout.

21 posted on 09/25/2003 3:06:56 PM PDT by SAJ
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To: Argus
Dolores Huerta is still alive? If I'm not mistaken, she was an old-line communist formerly associated with Cesar Chavez.
22 posted on 09/25/2003 3:15:38 PM PDT by Steve_Seattle (uo)
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To: Bikers4Bush
"The unparalleled gaul of these illegal cockroaches makes my skin crawl."

Don't you know it. But bad as it is, it's infinitely more frustrating that those elected - and paid - to deal with this turn a blind eye.

23 posted on 09/25/2003 3:19:14 PM PDT by Paulie
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To: Steve_Seattle
She's an honorary "chair" of the Democratic Socialists of America.
24 posted on 09/25/2003 3:26:45 PM PDT by sarcasm (Tancredo 2004)
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To: sarcasm
Ninety immigrants and supporters left their buses and marched outside the Roman Catholic cathedral here today, carrying foot-high crosses to commemorate people from south of the border who died in the desert as they sought a better life in the United States.

Those people were not immigrants they were illegal aliens.

They were committing a crime. Committing a crime involves a certain amount of risk that doing things by legal means does not.

I know many immigrants. None of them was ever in danger of dying in the desert coming to America for a better life. That was because they came through Immigrations with passport and visa in hand.

But these people were illegal aliens. And calling a illegal alien an immigrant is an insult to immigrants.

25 posted on 09/25/2003 3:34:41 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Been there. Done that. Got the T-Shirt. Sold it on e-bay.)
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To: Bikers4Bush

National Sponsoring Committee


26 posted on 09/25/2003 3:38:32 PM PDT by sarcasm (Tancredo 2004)
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To: Allegra
Legal immigrants deserve all of the rights and priveleges (and responsibilities) of any U.S. resident.

Most, but not all. For example, only U.S. citizens are supposed to be allowed to vote in our elections. Immigrants, legal or illegal do not have that right.

A resident is not always a citizen and a citizen is not necessarily a resident.

27 posted on 09/25/2003 3:47:11 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Been there. Done that. Got the T-Shirt. Sold it on e-bay.)
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To: sarcasm
"Then, as now, let the freedom buses roll," the Rev. John M. Fife, pastor of the Southside Presbyterian Church, said in the eucharistic celebration at the cathedral. "

What happened to the separation of Church from State?

Oops, my bad, it only applies to conservative religious values...

28 posted on 09/25/2003 3:48:33 PM PDT by HiJinx (If you're not making waves, you're not kicking hard enough.)
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To: sarcasm
I wish this thing would blow up in their faces. They're going to be in Arkansas on Saturday. We are supposed to FReep the "event" but I'm not sure I would be able to contain my anger. It's all I can do to not get rude in public with these criminal aliens every time I hear them babbling at each other. I just want to tell them to get the h*ll out of this country, or at least shut up if they can't (or won't) learn to speak the language. Nothing like committing crimes and having the red carpet rolled out for your effort. I am hearing that our governor's office (Gov. Huckabee) won't even respond to inquiries about the invasion of illegals.
29 posted on 09/25/2003 3:49:49 PM PDT by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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To: Bikers4Bush
"The unparalleled gaul of these illegal cockroaches makes my skin crawl."

And just as disgusting is the absolute refusal of our lawmakers to do anything at all to rid us of these lawbreaking parasites!

30 posted on 09/25/2003 3:52:21 PM PDT by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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To: sarcasm
How many must die before the immivasion stops? Beats me, but I'd like to find out.
31 posted on 09/25/2003 3:54:52 PM PDT by PatrioticAmerican (Read Travis McGee's Book! www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: TopQuark
#14 - Notice they don't say they love our country, just our paychecks.
32 posted on 09/25/2003 3:55:32 PM PDT by PatrioticAmerican (Read Travis McGee's Book! www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: PatrioticAmerican
Exactly right! And then they call us names (racists, e.g.) if we hint that, well, we kind of expect those that live here to love this country, 'cause we happen to think that it is a h-ll of a country and worthy of love.
33 posted on 09/25/2003 4:00:30 PM PDT by TopQuark
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To: MonroeDNA
Unions should be against illegal aliens. Job loss thing. Why are they in favor of this?

Good question. I'm a union machinist which is part of the AFL-CIO. Some of us "more conservative" members have a meeting with the president of our local over just this matter. From what I've heard from our plant chairman is that they both agree that it is wrong for the union to be supporting this fraud. A portion of our union dues goes to a PAC from which the union heads spread out to mostly anti-american causes. Well, this is about the last straw giving money to these illegal causes. We hope that our local president will at least put out some kind of written statement how he and other union members oppose this. Becomeing a dues objector is another option. For now I'm glad he's agreed to meet with us.

34 posted on 09/25/2003 4:04:43 PM PDT by Missouri
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear
Most, but not all. For example, only U.S. citizens are supposed to be allowed to vote in our elections. Immigrants, legal or illegal do not have that right.

A resident is not always a citizen and a citizen is not necessarily a resident.

I've put the main point of my post in bold. I probably didn't make it very clear...fog of afternoon, I guess. I thinik the pennant race has my brain tied up in knots.

35 posted on 09/25/2003 4:14:28 PM PDT by Allegra
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To: sarcasm
"I cut your grass, I make your bed, I wash your dishes, I pick your fruit.

Funny, where was this guy yesterday when I was cutting my own grass? I also seen that my bed was made when I got home from work. I'll have to ask the wife who made the bed today. And we did our own dishes, too. I think this guy should get fired.

AS for the fruit, I'd gladly pay more if we could deport these illegals and return to simple supply and demand and NOT circumvent the U.S.citizen.

36 posted on 09/25/2003 4:17:07 PM PDT by Missouri (I picked two good tomatos out of my own garden today with no help from illegals)
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To: Missouri
Unions are a stepping stone to communism, for the leadership.

Hate to tell you this, but it is true.
37 posted on 09/25/2003 4:19:32 PM PDT by MonroeDNA (No longshoremen were injured to produce this tagline.)
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To: SAJ
You are, of course, correct.

Atctually, union leadership is communist in nature.
38 posted on 09/25/2003 4:22:36 PM PDT by MonroeDNA (No longshoremen were injured to produce this tagline.)
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To: sarcasm
How Many Must Die: Arizona Deaths This Year 146. Change Our Border Policy."

I wonder how many Americans and legal immigrants died this year at the hands of illegal alien gang members and drunk drivers?

39 posted on 09/25/2003 4:35:29 PM PDT by Nea Wood
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To: MonroeDNA
A union is like a tool. Its how its used and who's using it.

Don't lump all union members in with the leftist leadership. Lets try to stick to illegal immigration at this time.

40 posted on 09/25/2003 4:36:10 PM PDT by Missouri (I picked two good tomatos out of my own garden today with no help from illegals)
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