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It is time...ASK McClintock to DROP OUT of the race
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Posted on 09/25/2003 10:40:28 AM PDT by Gopher Broke
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To: AppyPappy
I'd rather have a moderate Democrat than a Socialist Democrat.
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posted on
09/25/2003 10:52:58 AM PDT
by
Hildy
(SUCKER: Short-sighted Uncompromising Conservative Kool-Aid-drinking Elitist Republican.)
To: AppyPappy
What good is a Republican governor if he is a Democrat?Well for one thing, he can help Bush win next year, who in turn will be able to hopefully appoint some decent judges, unlike most of the judges on the 9th Circus Court!
Just for that aspect alone, a dead Republican is better than MOST demonrats any day of the week!
To: dirtboy
If it only affected them we could. It doesn't and we can't.
You're free to stay out of it if you want and free to ask other to but that doesn't mean we should or will.
To: 68 grunt
California republicans need to ask 2 important questions: Do you want YOUR vote to count? and Who do you want it to count FOR?
To: Bikers4Bush
You're free to stay out of it if you want and free to ask other to but that doesn't mean we should or will. I am quite aware that I can't stop someone who insists on opining about an election that they're not voting in. However, I hope that some folks will reduce the background noise here so that the California freepers can debate this issue at crunch time among themselves, as they are the ones going to the ballot box in a couple of weeks.
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posted on
09/25/2003 10:56:09 AM PDT
by
dirtboy
(CongressmanBillyBob/John Armor for Congress - you can't separate them, so send 'em both to D.C.)
To: dirtboy
Are you in California?
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posted on
09/25/2003 10:58:05 AM PDT
by
per loin
To: princess leah
Yes, ma'am, I want my vote to count, and I want it to help account for change. I was delighted at the debate, and the lack of attack by the two (R)s on each other. I'd be delighted to see Arnie as Gov and McClintock as a valuable assistant. I want my vote to count to return California to the great state it was.
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posted on
09/25/2003 10:58:05 AM PDT
by
68 grunt
(3/1 India, 3rd, 0311, 68-69)
To: Gopher Broke
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To: dirtboy
I agree that this is a debate that Californians have the most right to argue. I can definately understand the desire to stand on one's principals, but it's much easier to stand up for principals when it's not your own state that's going down the tubes. You Californians must choose between the Republican that would be the best gov, or the Republican that's most likely to win. My only advise is to remember that many Republicans voted for Ross Perot in 92 as a protest against George H. Bush, and it gave Clinton the election. I hope that you don't give the Dems a victory by voting for McClintock, but that's your choice. We wish you luck.
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posted on
09/25/2003 11:02:51 AM PDT
by
birdsman
(I'm a proud member of the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy.)
To: Gopher Broke
Let's all vote for Bustamonte. That way we will have a sure win. For republicans, it's all about winning. For conservatives, it's all about principles.
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posted on
09/25/2003 11:02:57 AM PDT
by
ssdb
To: dirtboy
I may not be voting in it but I've supported it.
With money.
I think I have at the very least a little ground to stand on that I may opine from in the best interests of not only California but the nation.
To: per loin
Are you in California?No, I am not, and that's why I've refrained from commentary on this subject after the first couple of weeks, other than to correct general factual errors or silly claims by both sides.
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posted on
09/25/2003 11:07:09 AM PDT
by
dirtboy
(CongressmanBillyBob/John Armor for Congress - you can't separate them, so send 'em both to D.C.)
To: Gopher Broke
I see you're from Virginia. How about letting the California Freepers be the ones to make suggestions about the California election?
IMO, Ahnuld is just a Democrat in Republican clothing. He supports nothing that is Conservative in nature and much that is Liberal.
Better to vote No on the recall and let Davis take the blame for California's troubles. Ahnuld can't fix any of the problems here, so if he's elected, people will blame the Republicans next year.
At least McClintock is true to his beliefs. Personally, I think we Californians should ask Ahnuld to step out of the race and vote for McClintock.
How about dealing with your own state's problems and let Californians deal with ours?
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posted on
09/25/2003 11:08:15 AM PDT
by
MineralMan
(godless atheist)
To: ElkGroveDan
If Tom drops out then we are left with no one who suppurts the Republican platform. They apparently have decided to destroy the platform in order to save it.
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posted on
09/25/2003 11:12:33 AM PDT
by
Roscoe
To: MineralMan
Has anyone heard an answer yet from Ahnold about how he will pay for the goodies he promised last night:
1) 4,000 miles of new rails and roads
2) Health care for the illegal immigrant children
3) His after school program
4) At least two other new programs he promised
And then cut taxes in half? Quite a Christmas tree.
--Raoul
To: Gopher Broke
I think it's time for Arnold and Tom to Join Forces. Why have him drop out. Make a team of them.
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posted on
09/25/2003 11:14:37 AM PDT
by
Havoc
(If you can't be frank all the time are you lying the rest of the time?)
To: AppyPappy
Who do you prefer? Bustamante or Arnold?
Those are your choices. Deal with it.
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posted on
09/25/2003 11:15:07 AM PDT
by
Monty22
To: Always Right
The problem is that given the demographics of the California electorate, the governor will
always be a liberal, at least as freepers see it.
I watched the debate last night and thought Tom McClintock did a good job. I think he'd be a good governor. However, he is a career politician, and he did not come across like a leader. In military parlance, he reminded me of a great executive officer or chief of staff, but I just don't seem him as a senior commander. Tom just doesn't offer anything to get the people who don't already agree with him to vote for him. He's a true blue conservative, and that scares a lot of people in California.
Like it or not, most Californians are relatively socially liberal, even if they are fiscally conservative. Or they are like my cousin, who worked for JFK in 1960 and has voted Democrat ever since. Well, this time, she's voting to Recall Davis. I was shocked. She doesn't like Cruz, either. Wants immigration stopped and the mess in Sacramento cleaned up. She'll vote for Arnie, because (1) she thinks he might be effective and (2) he doesn't scare her on social issues. I asked her about Tom, and she said "He's just another politician saying the same things he's said for 20 years. He's a crazy right-winger."
Sports fans, Tom won't ever get her vote, or the votes of the millions of people like her in California. And without a lot of support from Democrats and independents, no Republican can win statewide in California. Arnold, for all his faults, has a shot at getting a lot of those votes. And that's why he can win, where Tom can't. Tom is the flip side of Cruz BustaMEChA: has the core support of the conservative/liberal activists, but doesn't appeal beyond his core constituency.
Tom is beginning to sound like it's more about him than it is about the state. Too much, me, me. My positions, I've said this for years. etc.
If he doesn't bow to reality soon, he'll soon be Don McQuixote, enabler of Cruz.
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posted on
09/25/2003 11:15:29 AM PDT
by
CatoRenasci
(Ceterum Censeo [Gallia][Germania][Arabia] Esse Delendam --- Select One or More as needed)
To: RDangerfield
Cutting taxes will cause a boost in revenue. Cutting programs and waste will free up more. And Infrastructure if done as per usual will pay for itself through use fees.
Pretty simple. Next.
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posted on
09/25/2003 11:19:18 AM PDT
by
Havoc
(If you can't be frank all the time are you lying the rest of the time?)
To: RDangerfield
Oh, btw, I respect you even if your eyes do bug out when you straighten your tie. ;) lol (sorry couldn't resist)
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posted on
09/25/2003 11:20:14 AM PDT
by
Havoc
(If you can't be frank all the time are you lying the rest of the time?)
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