[RoughDobermann]

And what of the the freedom from the threat of being blown to smithereens or being obliterated in the flaming wreckage of a downed airliner, is this not also a vital civil liberty?

Of course it is. But should EVERY Muslim be a suspect? Yes or no? If your answer is yes, then we have nothing else to say.

The measures used to investigate suspected terroristrs are no more intrusive than those used to investigate suspected white-collar criminals.

Agreed, and if there is evidence that particular Muslims are considering or engaging in terrorist activity, they should be investigated. But, should every Muslim be investigated or be considered a suspect? No.

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Fact: Not all Muslims are terrorists or memmbers of their support group.

Fact: All terrorists and practically all their support group are Muslims.

Fact: The Muslim terrorists by and large move within the Muslim community in the U.S.

So in view of these facts where do you propose that we look for terrorists, in Lutheran churches, Farm Bureau picnics or Knights of Columbus lodges?

No, you have to look where Muslims congregate.

Our domestic counter-terrorism efforts must, of necessity be directed at Muslim organizations.

And if we don't want more 9/11s we have to be proactive, not reactive.