[1rudeboy]

I seriously doubt if there are many socialists on this forum, but you seem to throw the term around when you have nothing material to say.

Are you kidding, up to 75% of the responses on your typical free-trade thread are "socialist" in one form of another, in that the government is seen as the guarantor of high-paying jobs, through various forms of governmental intervention. And then you have:

What you fail to see is that the present path of outsourcing and offshoring leads not only to job loss but socio economic meltdown. Tariffs do not lead to socio economic meltdown. Chronic joblessness is what turns displaced workers into an underclass. Chronic joblessness turns good neighborhoods into bad. Chronic joblessness leads to the first signs of trouble; lots of idle young men hanging out on streetcorners at all hours.

[a member here], September 7, 2003

The protective system of our day is conservative, while the free trade system is destructive. It breaks up old nationalities and pushes the antagonism of the proletariat and the bourgeoisie to the extreme point. In a word, the free trade system hastens the social revolution. It is in this revolutionary sense alone, gentlemen, that I vote in favor of free trade.

Karl Marx, January 9, 1848

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What do you call that?

[ARCADIA]

What do you call that?

Those are observations or hypothesis. They are a neutral statement of fact, as in: "The sunrise announces a new morning." You can despute the observation, however, the speaker is not advocating socialism. No one is saying that we should "break(s) up old nationalities and pushes the antagonism of the proletariat and the bourgeoisie to the extreme point." Except, perhaps for those advocating global free trade; then again, they are the ones who are anxious to climb into bed with communist China.