[TopQuark]

I am not against the facts, of course. But selective attention to them is propaganda. And that what Willie Green does: posts exclusively anti-corporate and anti-capitalist pieces, often from really poor sources.

Other facts? Well, the unemployement is 6.1% which until very recently was considered minimal possible. Great news.

[steplock]

It is time for TRUE Americans to simply BOYCOTT ALL NON-AMERICAN goods!

The NATION you save WILL be your own!


If you don't - I hope you are practicing your SLAVE mentality.

[Starwind]

But selective attention to them is propaganda. And that what Willie Green does: posts exclusively anti-corporate and anti-capitalist pieces, often from really poor sources.

Perhaps then you could balance this out for us by posting news reports of mass-hirings in the US, new factories being opened in the US, production lines being started up (perhaps even brought in from say China or India?), from reputable sources like Forbes, WSJ, Dow Jones, Etc? In fact, lets start with you posting 1 article of a mass hiring (on the same scale as the layoffs) for a US factory and see where that goes. Show us what we've been selectively ignoring.

Well, the unemployement is 6.1% which until very recently was considered minimal possible.

That's only counting the number of people currently collecting UI benefits. Once they fall off the UI roles, they are no longer counted in that statistic, and you must turn to the Household survey data to get a full picture. The rate of total unemployed and underemployed is currently 10.0%:

From the THE EMPLOYMENT SITUATION reports I have accumulated table A12 Line U-6 data for May 2003 thru present, not seasonally adjusted.

Unemployment (Household Survey Data)
   
                                                                 Not seasonally adjusted              

                                                                 August  May     June    July    August 
                                                                 2002    2003    2003    2003    2003     
 
  U-6 Total unemployed, plus all marginally attached workers,        
     plus total employed part time for economic reasons, as a        
     percent of the civilian labor force plus all marginally     
     attached workers.........................................    9.5    9.7     10.6    10.5    10.0 
    1 Data not available.
    NOTE:  Marginally attached workers are persons who currently are neither working nor looking for work but indicate that they want
  and are available for a job and have looked for work sometime in the recent past.  Discouraged workers, a subset of the marginally
  attached, have given a job-market related reason for not currently looking for a job.  Persons employed part time for economic
  reasons are those who want and are available for full-time work but have had to settle for a part-time schedule.  For further
  information, see "BLS introduces new range of alternative unemployment measures,"  in the October 1995 issue of the Monthly Labor
  Review.  Beginning in January 2003, data reflect revised population controls used in the household survey.

[Beck_isright]

"Well, the unemployement is 6.1% which until very recently was considered minimal possible. Great news."

If you believe any government statistic from the last 13 years, I want you to email me so I can sell you some property on the side of this 8000 ft. high mountain I own in South Florida.

[JohnSmithee]

"I am not against the facts, of course. But selective attention to them is propaganda. And that what Willie Green does: posts exclusively anti-corporate and anti-capitalist pieces, often from really poor sources."

Then don't come to these threads. Kind of simple actually...

[fortaydoos]

You ignore the fact that millions have simply stopped looking for work and thus are not "unemployed".

President Bush would do well to get some new advisors who understand that Americans are getting impatient with this "recovery" that produces jobs only in the third world.