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To: betty boop; Hank Kerchief; Pietro; Phaedrus
Thank you for your reply and for the chuckle! Indeed, the question of man's autonomy will never be decided to everyone's satisfaction!

It seems to me that the political thought in Plato's Republic would be relevant to most posters, whether actively posting or just lurking. Your insight would be particularly helpful since many have only been exposed to one point of view from the academia.

I see you also pinged Pietro and Phaedrus. That's great! I don't believe we fully discussed Pietro's resonance musings and I'd love to hear Phaedrus' take on the possibility and what has been tabled thus far.

Also, I see we have some scientists and mathematicians lurking on the thread who may have ideas on the resonance musings or Einstein's "reality is an illusion, albeit a very persistent one" which may be applicable to this more narrow question, "What is Man?".

375 posted on 10/07/2003 9:38:08 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Alamo-Girl; Pietro; Phaedrus; Doctor Stochastic; PatrickHenry
...Einstein's "reality is an illusion, albeit a very persistent one" which may be applicable to this more narrow question, "What is Man?".

Seems definitely applicable to me, A-G! What we "see" seems to be what mostly constructs reality for us. Or to put it another way, perception seems to be what gives reality its basic form in our minds. As such, perception is an objectifying process. It would follow that if our perceptual apparatus were different, or if it were capable of processing more than 3D of space and 1D of time, the world might look very "different."

376 posted on 10/07/2003 10:17:14 AM PDT by betty boop (God used beautiful mathematics in creating the world. -- Paul Dirac)
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To: Alamo-Girl; betty boop; All
I want to thank you for continuing to darw me on this back to this thread.

I've been following along as I get time, although the dueling scriptural passages were a distraction; when oh Lord will we learn that its not our differences that define us but our commmunion?

Anyway, of the resonance musings. I knew A-G that you'd be attracted to that based on things you've said in the past. To take it one step further I would mention here the "new" science being introduced by Wolfram. I believe the self replicating patterns are perhaps the truest explanation of reality yet put forward. Of course even his most intricate formula's are merely kindergarden fingerpaintiings compared to actuality.

The ever flowing source of these patterns (GOD) employs a logic so clear and pure that, as bb pointed out, to plumb that depth would be to loose oneself completely.

BTW, EB White had a very interesting description of an ant's worlview in "The Once and Future King".

405 posted on 10/07/2003 5:52:52 PM PDT by Pietro
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