To: Alamo-Girl; JesseShurun; HalfFull; DittoJed2; gore3000; Pietro; unspun; Hank Kerchief
Alamo-Girl, thank you so very much for posting the story about Martin Luther.
I read a bit about Luther's life in Jacques Barzun's excellent From Dawn to Decadence. It was said there that Luther had gone through a very dark period of intense spiritual suffering that lasted quite a long time, as he was struggling to come into conformity with Christ. He had somehow become convinced he was utterly lost of God, utterly damned. Finally, by the grace of God, he learned otherwise, was able to emerge from that desperate state of spiritual isolation and suffering, and "put on the new man" in Christ.
Clearly, from the passages you posted, Luther was prepared to accept martyrdom rather than break faith with the fruits of grace and the Holy Spirit that came out of that dark struggle in his soul -- mediated, I am sure, by Christ Jesus.
Fortunately, God had other plans for him....
Thank you so much for writing!
338 posted on
10/06/2003 1:48:54 PM PDT by
betty boop
(God used beautiful mathematics in creating the world. -- Paul Dirac)
To: betty boop; All
hugs ... more hugs --- extra hugs !
339 posted on
10/06/2003 1:58:32 PM PDT by
f.Christian
(evolution vs intelligent design ... science3000 ... designeduniverse.com --- * architecture * !)
To: betty boop
Betty, please do not flag me to this thread or the rest of the creationists. Several of our names were reported to JimRob and as a result we are on the verge of having our posting privileges revoked. As such, I'd prefer not to be drawn in any further to this fray. Thank you. DJ2.
340 posted on
10/06/2003 1:59:06 PM PDT by
DittoJed2
(Liberty must at all hazards be supported. We have a right to it,derived from our Maker- John Adams)
To: betty boop
Incidentally, the situation is so touchy that Jesse's last post to you got him banned. The thread is yours.
341 posted on
10/06/2003 2:01:22 PM PDT by
DittoJed2
(Liberty must at all hazards be supported. We have a right to it,derived from our Maker- John Adams)
To: betty boop
I'm so glad you enjoyed the Martin Luther information! I had not read the actual documents and his testimony. It was certainly astonishing to me, especially these words "my conscience is captive to the word of God. I cannot and will not recant anything, for to go against conscience is neither right nor safe. God help me. Amen."
Now, having learned of his personal ordeal from your post, those words are even more piercing. Thank you!!!
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