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US ships make port visit to China to 'reduce misunderstandings'
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Posted on 09/24/2003 7:16:59 PM PDT by maui_hawaii

Two US Navy ships have arrived at a port in southern China for a visit aimed at building trust and reducing misunderstandings between the navies of the two countries, a US naval official said.

The calls by the USS Cowpens and USS Vandegrift to the Zhanjiang port are part of a series of exchanges between the two militaries for the past few years, Lieutenant Commander Mike Brown said.

"I think it's a good indication that the continuation of relations between the two countries is moving in a positive direction," Brown, the public affairs officer for the US Navy's Carrier Group Five, told AFP.

"Obviously, these port visits are an opportunity for the two countries to strengthen the bonds of friendship."

It is the first time US Navy ships have been allowed to visit the Chinese Navy's South Sea Fleet headquarters in Zhanjiang in southern China's Guangdong province, Brown said.

In the past few years of exchanges, US ships have only docked at the mainland Chinese ports of Qingdao in northeastern China and Shanghai in the east, he said.

In return, a Chinese naval ship and a support ship will be allowed to visit the US territory of Guam for the first time this year, Brown said. The schedule for the visit has not been finalized.

An average of about three US ships visit mainland China each year, Brown said. Chinese naval vessels visit US ports less often, he said.

Military exchanges between the countries, including port calls, were temporarily suspended following a mid-air collision between a US EP-3 spy plane and Chinese fighter in April 1, 2001 off the south China coast that sparked a major diplomatic row.

The Chinese fighter pilot was killed in the collision and the EP-3 was forced to make an emergency landing in China's Hainan Island, with the crew detained for 11 days before being released.

Brown said Monday: "We've put that behind us."

Last year a US ship visited the Chinese port of Qingdao and two Chinese ships visited Pearl Harbor and then went on to Everett, Washington, he said.

The two US ships visiting Zhanjiang this week are permanently deployed to the Western Pacific and operate from Yokosuka, Japan.

The USS Cowpens is a Ticonderoga-class guided-missile cruiser with a crew of approximately 400 sailors.

The USS Vandegrift is an Oliver Hazard Perry-class guided missile frigate with a crew of approximately 210 sailors.

While the US sailors are getting rest and recreation for the next four to five days, they will participate in activities to promote friendship between themselves and Chinese sailors, including basketball, soccer and ping pong games, Brown said.

"Everytime we have these types of exchanges, we reduce the opportunity where we'll have misunderstandings when we're at sea. We operate in the same proximity, so it's important to do that," Brown said.

"From time to time, we encounter the Chinese Navy. We respect each other. We want to make sure they know where we're going and we know where they're going."


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: china; port; portcall; shipmovement; usn; usscowpens; ussvandegrift

1 posted on 09/24/2003 7:17:00 PM PDT by maui_hawaii
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2 posted on 09/24/2003 7:45:42 PM PDT by Lake
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To: Lake
I think this visit might end up being a good influence.

If the troops see things first hand they might not be so influenced by drumbeats and half ass propaganda...

3 posted on 09/24/2003 7:50:22 PM PDT by maui_hawaii
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Maybe. But many PLA officers are confident that their tactics will work when confronting the US military.
4 posted on 09/24/2003 8:23:45 PM PDT by Lake
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Hey, Chinese ships visit our west coast ports all the time.
They arrive full of containers and leave so empty they have to take on water for ballast.
5 posted on 09/24/2003 8:25:28 PM PDT by Last Dakotan
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6 posted on 09/24/2003 8:34:32 PM PDT by Lake
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But many PLA officers are confident that their tactics will work when confronting the US military.

Which tactics are those?

7 posted on 09/24/2003 9:13:54 PM PDT by maui_hawaii
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But many PLA officers are confident that their tactics will work when confronting the US military.

Talk like that is exactly why we should bury the CCP right now.

Thats exactly why we should be extremely weary of trading, and what we trade, with China...

If China ever attacks our military over anything...Taiwan included, you can bet on all hell breaking loose...

8 posted on 09/24/2003 9:21:33 PM PDT by maui_hawaii
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>>Which tactics are those?

I talked to some of them in Guangdong and they still believe Mao's People's War. They believe quantity can beat quality. They asked me "how can the US navy manage if 10,000 low-cost cruise missles coming towards a single carrier?" They said they have millions of such cheap weapons in stock and can double the inventory overnight.
9 posted on 09/24/2003 10:03:15 PM PDT by Lake
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>>If China ever attacks our military over anything...Taiwan included, you can bet on all hell breaking loose...

But the PLA doesn't buy it.......
10 posted on 09/24/2003 10:04:07 PM PDT by Lake
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11 posted on 09/24/2003 10:11:36 PM PDT by Consort
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I don't doubt that if they are referring to strapping peasants to bombs and calling them cruise missles. From what I've seen and read China doesn't have the industrial base or tech to produce "high end" weapons at that rate.

I could be wrong, but for that tactic to even work they would have to get a delivery system within striking range of a carrier task force..no easy task, than defeat the 2 or 3 Aegis Cruisers built to take down inbound "vampires" and aircraft. Not impossible, but very difficult and costly for the attackers.
12 posted on 09/24/2003 10:12:00 PM PDT by Blue Scourge ("If a man hasn't found something he is willing to die for he is not fit to live"- M. Luther King Jr.)
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Those guys are asking for trouble. First...you can't shoot what you can't see.

Secondly, if my missiles can fly 5,000 miles (and hit what its shooting at) and theirs fly 1,000 miles then run out of gas...

If it were me, I would sit 5,000 miles out and start blasting.

It simply isn't like what they think.

The notion that they are even contemplating an attack is the real problem.

13 posted on 09/24/2003 10:13:42 PM PDT by maui_hawaii
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To: Lake
If they ever attack they will find out.

In all seriousness America doesn't take kindly to being attacked... or threatened for that matter...

14 posted on 09/24/2003 10:15:32 PM PDT by maui_hawaii
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WHAT A GREAT PORT OF CALL !
15 posted on 09/24/2003 10:31:03 PM PDT by Delta 21 (Blindly posting without reading the entire article or even one post since 1998.)
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Been there or no?
16 posted on 09/24/2003 10:35:18 PM PDT by maui_hawaii
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No, its just a great oportunity for the guys that get liberty.
17 posted on 09/24/2003 10:54:30 PM PDT by Delta 21 (Blindly posting without reading the entire article or even one post since 1998.)
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Sure does look like fun, you're right there. Always been pissed off since I was never able to visit Tiawan. Hong Kong was nice, but too expensive.

Jack
18 posted on 09/25/2003 2:50:17 AM PDT by btcusn
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To show them the ships they will be building soon?
19 posted on 09/25/2003 2:53:24 AM PDT by cp124 (The Great Wall Mart)
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