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To: wideawake
Even non-Catholics like myself can see that removing altar girls from the church, would be a good thing. :)

If the Catholic Church has a set of rules or traditions that make them uniquely Catholic, then why would anyone who doesn't believe with these rules want to remain in such a church? To change the rules, and go against everything that the Church deems holy or important, weakens the Church, and doesn't strengthen it. It will cease to be the Catholic Church, if obstructionists have their way. The Church must protect itself.
72 posted on 09/24/2003 3:52:25 PM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife ("Life isn't fair. It's fairer than death, is all.")
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To: Pan_Yans Wife
"Rules" have changed throughout the history of the church. Priests could get married for the first few centuries. Should we go back to that rule and castigate all of the popes who've banned priestly marriage for the past 1600 or 1700 years?

To say that no customs should ever change in the church is ridiculous. Core beliefs should hold firm, but customs and practices have always been open to change, granted very slowly and with lots of deliberation.

I am not one who wants radical change in the church...I am far more of a traditionalist (14 of my first 16 years of education were at Catholic schools), but I'm not one of these no change, not no way, not no how types of Catholics.

In my mothers day, she was never allowed to set foot on the altar. Her uncle was a pastor and very prominent in his diocese which traditionally had been very conservative. The only exception was when the woman got married...the kneeler was put on the altar. Well, she married a non-Catholic and because of that they had to kneel at the communion rail...heaven forbid a non-Catholic (Christian nevertheless) step foot on the altar.

Obviously that rule has been relaxed. My mother is an elderly Eucharistic minister and obviously steps foot on the altar every week. And you will never meet a more conservative Catholic. (E.g, she can't stand any instrument but organ music in the church.) The fact that the rules allow women to step foot on that altar won't damn us all for eternity, it hasn't ruined the church. The same is true of woman wearing veils.

Traditions and customs can AND SHOULD evolve over time. Core beliefs should not change. I've never understood Catholics that hyperventilate about altered customs like BVM nuns not dressing as Black Veiled Monsters anymore. Those people need to get a life.

Last part of this vent...my favorite nun in the world -- as good a person as you will ever meet -- asked me a trick question..."How many sacraments are there?" Of course I answered "seven". "Ahaa!", she replied, "But only for you." She has no desire to be a priest (she's in her twilight years), and I frankly am not sure where I stand on the subject, but on the other hand stop insulting women by telling them that people can participate in seven sacraments...only men can.
114 posted on 09/24/2003 4:13:28 PM PDT by Cousin Eddie
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To: Pan_Yans Wife
Thank you for your insight. You have a marvelously succinct way of expressing complex thoughts.
230 posted on 09/24/2003 8:46:33 PM PDT by wideawake (God bless our brave soldiers and their Commander in Chief)
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