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"No point in going from the Episcopal frying pan into the Catholic fire!"

My brother in law is an Episcopal convert to Catholicism - he will never go back. He, and I, both attend the old fashioned Catholic Tridentine, (Latin), Mass. The innovations found in the modern Catholic Church are merely what the Protestants sought after for so long. But they will not last. Perhaps you could come on over to the true Church and add a much needed conservative dimension to her. It has always been said that converts make the best Catholics, and I agree with this 100%.

It has always been said that converts make the best Catholics, and I agree with this 100%.

My father used to tell a joke about Clare Booth Luce meeting the Pope - eventually somebody took her aside and said, "but, Clare, he's ALREADY Catholic . . . "

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My parents are fortunate to live in a different Episcopal diocese that is very conservative and in a parish where the vestry and senior warden are somewhere to the right of St. Anselm - they have already withheld their National contributions and await further developments.

Our current parish is hopeless - no point in even arguing with the rector, who belittles any who disagree with him - and our bishop is worse, a two-faced mealy-mouthed panderer. So whatever develops from the conferences in Texas and Canterbury, we will shake the dust of this parish from our sandals and hit the road. A shame, really -- we've been here 23 years. At this point, though, the only thing I will miss is the choir. . . it is the best I have ever sung in (and that includes a Cathedral parish and my college Schola Cantorum).

Stay with the Holy Mother Church Crusader! You adequately define the problems. I was raised in the Church, educated by the Church and had to avoid getting my butt packed by the homo clergy in the Church. The alter boys made attempts to advise our parents and the authorities of the queer priests. We were ignored. There may still be some anger about the issue by men but not too much by the females. Thank God that the seasoned alter boys protected the uninitiated younger boys. Girl alter servers probably would not provide assistance. To heck with the Catholic women and girlie men who refused to recognize the homo problem until now. I left the Church right out of High School but have kept in touch with the issues. There are organizations that pander to women and the girlie men. I’ve tried the New Age stuff but it is populated by too many of the homo and feminine ministries. The weirdoes have singing bowls and the boys love the boys and the girls love the girls. There are places for pseudo and cafeteria Catholics where they may feel more comfortable. They should go there. Spirituality may be defined as feeling all warm and fuzzy about the smell of an apple pie. The Church is a Religion based on the principles of Christ and clarity. Those who confuse their personal spirituality with the Canon need to be elsewhere. The isle dancing, singing pop tunes, and queering and feminizing the Church will lead to demise of Christ’s Authority, moral guidance and the perpetuation of the Church. Although my issues with the Church are my own, I still respect the Church but not the cafeteria Catholics. The Holy Mother Church is not a democracy – never was. The Pope is the power and if the pseudo and cafeteria types don’t like it they can protest, leave and then maybe I can come back to a healthy Mother Church. The Church does not need an sexually integrated Army --- It needs a “Few Good Men.”