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To: stanz
"That all pales in comparison to the sex scandals that the church finds itself embroiled in. That should be the Vatican's top priority, not how to make the church even less attractive to future parishioners."

Typical response by a new-age "Catholic".

Just so you understand, stanz, the Church of Christ was never, ever meant to be 'attractive' in the context you desire it to be. On the contrary, Jesus told us to reject selfish desires and worldiness, and He said: "Take up your cross and follow me". Christ also said: "If they persecute me, they will persecute you also".

No, the "attractiveness" of the Catholic Church is not that we get what we want, or that we find creature comfort there, but that in our sufferings and joys, in the health of our youth and the infirmity of our old age we follow Christ to the Cross, and to eternal happiness in the next world. You new-age "Catholics" have forgotten the real message of Christianity. You seek to fullfil the desires of your pride and ego by finding "equality" in the Church, rather than in humble submission to lawful Church authority and in prayer.

May God speed the Pope's actions to bring back the truth.

350 posted on 09/26/2003 1:28:33 PM PDT by TheCrusader
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To: TheCrusader
Dear Crusader,
Take your crusade some place else.

Jesus told us to reject selfish desires and worldiness

I merely suggested that the clergy ought to be practicing what they preach.

Just so you understand, stanz, the Church of Christ was never, ever meant to be 'attractive' in the context you desire it to be.

Just so you understand, if the Catholic church wants to be in existence in the millenium to come, it had better consider its appeal to future worshippers. This doesn't mean that Jesus is left out of the equation. Rather, it means that more time should be spent conveying Jesus's teachings rather than defending the wayward lifestyles of many members of the clergy who have disgraced themselves, victimized young people, and demoralized the church.

You seek to fullfil the desires of your pride and ego by finding "equality" in the Church, rather than in humble submission to lawful Church authority and in prayer.

The crux of the whole problem stems from the "lawful church authority" which has forsaken the faithful in order to protect its own. Where's the humility in that?

377 posted on 09/26/2003 5:15:10 PM PDT by stanz (Those who don't believe in evolution should go jump off the flat edge of the Earth.)
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