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Drafting Our Daughters: Why do American men no longer have a godly affection for their daughters?
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| Matt Trewhella
Posted on 09/24/2003 8:21:32 AM PDT by xzins
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To: society-by-contract
The military draft is nothing more than slavery. It is evil. How true. Additionally, the 13th amendment prohibits involuntary servatude; but who reads the constitution anymore?
Yeah? Good luck with that argument...pinko hippie types got more or less laughed outta court using that rationale during Vietnam. I can't imagine it'd hold any more water today.
Snidely
To: Woahhs; xzins
I think women share the responsibility for this life 50/50 with men.
But if you're talking about women thinking it's just marvelous to go off and break a nail in Baghdad, that's men speaking and women parroting.
It happens a lot.
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posted on
09/24/2003 1:14:56 PM PDT
by
Dr. Eckleburg
(There are very few shades of gray.)
To: xzins
We live in different times now and The women wanted this equality, so its only fair and With all the government does for us, we should be willing to let them (our daughters) give two years of their life for them.
I have a better answer. There are very few American men left. Most males in America have become "woman-hearted", as the old Native Americans would have said.
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posted on
09/24/2003 1:19:28 PM PDT
by
ZULU
To: Dr. Eckleburg
I think women share the responsibility for this life 50/50 with men. But if you're talking about women thinking it's just marvelous to go off and break a nail in Baghdad, that's men speaking and women parroting.
You see nothing contradictory in this statement? If you were just blowing smoke, how could one prove it to you? What evidence could exonerate men in your model?
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posted on
09/24/2003 1:23:57 PM PDT
by
Woahhs
To: xzins
Different essence my ass.
I don't want my son drafted. Period. If he decides to enlist when he's a legal age, that's his right.
To: Woahhs
"Do you really imagine the fact they were male has anything to do with the fact they did as their constituency directed them?"
It was the fact that they were male that afforded them the opportunity to be law and policy makers at the time. If we are in such a mess (and I agree we are), men helped get us here. Women didn't do it all alone.
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posted on
09/24/2003 1:27:41 PM PDT
by
MEGoody
To: xzins
The culture has worked overtime for decades to get rid of men. They prefer the soft male: metrosexual, homosexual.
That's the stupidest thing I've read in a long time (excepting stuff at DU). Where are all these women?? I have yet to see any. There are PLENTY of women out there who want decent men that are self-sufficient, strong, focused individuals. True, there are women who want softies they can push around, but there have always been women like that. I would only be guessing, but it seems to me that the percentage isn't much greater than it was.
The reality is that, for all the changes that have undertaken these past 60 years, the basics of one-on-one relationships between men and women haven't changed nearly so much.
I know more than a few touchy-feely pinko females, and only a small percentage of them seem to have any interest in the Alan Alda type. Now, they might not be so much into the John Wayne type, either...somewhere in between, perhaps a James Stewart, or someone fairly close. You gonna call Jimmy Stewart a metrosexual?
Snidely
To: Woahhs; Dr. Eckleburg; xzins
"Men can not lead when women won't follow." And your scriptural support for that hypothesis is?
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posted on
09/24/2003 1:30:24 PM PDT
by
editor-surveyor
( . Best policy RE: Environmentalists, - ZERO TOLERANCE !!)
To: StatesEnemy
A lil' proselytizing in the morning, eh? Sadly, most Christians seem to feel that God is silent about "modern-day" issues like women in combat. We feel that if God's Word doesn't spell something out word-for-word (e.g. "Thou shalt not put women in combat"), then He doesn't have anything to say about it. It is truly tragic if we need such a direct proclamation to prove to us that women are to be protected, cherished, and defended, and that men are to do the work of guarding them. From cover to cover, the Bible is packed with stories, laws, commands, and examples of men laying down their lives to protect the innocent and the weak. Christ is, of course, our primary example, and He calls men to follow Him by sacrificing in order to cherish, nourish, and protect the ones under their charge. The Groom of Scripture does not hide behind the skirts of His bride. In fact, men in Scripture who hide behind women are roundly condemned for their cowardice (see the account of Deborah the prophetess in Judges 4).
Call it what you wish.
Joshua, chapter 24:15. And if it seem evil unto you to serve the LORD, choose you this day whom ye will serve; whether the gods which your fathers served that were on the other side of the flood, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land ye dwell: but as for me and my house, we will serve the LORD.
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posted on
09/24/2003 1:32:55 PM PDT
by
SLB
To: editor-surveyor
.... ?The women wanted this equality, so it?s only fair? and ?With all the government does for us, we should be willing to let them (our daughters) give two years of their life for them.? The 'fruits' of 'Stare-Trek' T.V.,........and,....Evolution's....."Stare-Ship"...."Feminize".
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posted on
09/24/2003 1:34:08 PM PDT
by
maestro
To: Dr. Eckleburg
This benefits men, primarily.
No it does not, it only benefits females. I take it you are ignoring the anti-male divorse court rulings, rape laws, affirmative action laws and child support laws in this country.
To: editor-surveyor
And your scriptural support for that hypothesis is?It is not a hypotheis. It is a corollary inherent to the proposition. If you are going to dispute this, please provide the basis of that disputation.
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posted on
09/24/2003 1:37:23 PM PDT
by
Woahhs
I AM FOR DRAFT!!!
LOTS OF BIG TALKERS that won't dare go to war or send their loved one.
i will go if i am DRAFTED!! since i enjoy the freedom that was bought and paid for by WARS!!!
TALK OF DRAFT REALLY BRINGS OUT THE TRUE COLORS OF "WAR/MILITARY SUPPORTERS"!!
and if women want equality, they got it! DRAFT US TOO!!
women and men are not created equal..but if we insist in altering nature...GO AHEAD AND DRAFT US TOO!!
To: xzins
This is total horsehockey. Does this guy think I'm supposed to love my daughter more than my son? Either way whether its my daughter or my son, I will worry about them if they are serving, its just a natural parental thing. I try to treat my children with equal love because I love them equally.
To: Woahhs
" If you are going to dispute this, please provide the basis of that disputation" Where in God's word does it absolve men of their leadership roll if women won't follow? - Nowhere !!!
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posted on
09/24/2003 1:41:31 PM PDT
by
editor-surveyor
( . Best policy RE: Environmentalists, - ZERO TOLERANCE !!)
To: familyofman
Are we to love our daughters more than our sons? As the father of 2 sons, no daughters - I have to ask, our my sons less valuable than someone else's daughters? I don't think so. Right on brother.
To: MEGoody
t was the fact that they were male that afforded them the opportunity to be law and policy makers at the time. If we are in such a mess (and I agree we are), men helped get us here. Women didn't do it all alone. Why are you willing to devolve into circular reasoning to mitigate the role of women in their own lives? Haranguing men about women is as silly as digging deeper to get out of a hole.
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posted on
09/24/2003 1:42:16 PM PDT
by
Woahhs
To: editor-surveyor
Ever read the book of Ezekiel? It's in the nature of God. You ignore the watchman, your blood is on your own head. He's only culpable if he doesn't warn you.
Tell me where that one is abrogated.
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posted on
09/24/2003 1:49:22 PM PDT
by
Woahhs
To: xzins
I would saddly allow my son to be drafted if the nation really needed men, but under no circumstances will not daughters be drafted. My daughters are off limits and if they would have to flee this nation to prevent being drafted, flee with my assistance and encouragement they would.
Double standard? You damn right it is!
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posted on
09/24/2003 1:55:39 PM PDT
by
dpa5923
(Small minds talk about people, normal minds talk about events, great minds talk about ideas.)
To: dpa5923
I would saddly allow my son to be drafted if the nation really needed men, but under no circumstances will my not daughters be drafted. My daughters are off limits and if they would have to flee this nation to prevent being drafted, flee with my assistance and encouragement they would. Double standard? You damn right it is!
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posted on
09/24/2003 1:57:17 PM PDT
by
dpa5923
(Small minds talk about people, normal minds talk about events, great minds talk about ideas.)
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