[freeeee]

these people on the left post a threat.

'These people'. How convenient. In any large group there will be a violent type - so we'll take the actions of a few individuals, claim guilt by association against anyone that shares some of the same views, and presto, we can exercise prior restraint against free speech and free assembly, anytime and anywhere it's convenient.

Sure they have blac bloc. And they'll cite Tim McVeigh. Bank on it. As a matter of fact, the left holds that FReepers especially are among the most violent elements of the right. Sure its not true, but when they take office again, it won't matter. You'll have set (yet another of) Clintons policies in cement, and forfeited any credibility on the issue.

And so a loop whole in the First Amendment large enough to drive a truck (or a motorcade) through is created. If a tree falls in the forest and no one hears it, it doesn't matter if the tree fell at all. The same theory is held by these ENEMIES OF FREE SPEECH as they restrict protesters (but not supporters mind you) to free speech zones where no one will see or hear them.

Law and order: it's what we believe in.

Bologna. Here's a law that is ingnored when convenient by 'conservatives':

Amendment I
Congress shall make no law...abridging the freedom of speech, ...or the right of the people peaceably to assemble.

[FreeTheHostages]

Um, that's a little overblown. The Secret Service is asking people for whom there *is evidence* that they behave violently -- I'm sorry but there just IS -- to step back a bit. That's not a huge whole in the First Amendment. It's not even a pinprick. It's entirely consistent with the First Amendment.

I think we disagree on the facts. I think these Worker's World Party *are* violent -- espouse it and practice it. I expect that in the Secret Service's defense in court, they'll note what happened last time this was litigated and a court let the leftists near the Inauguration parade. I think you're much too generous to suggest it's just a few bad apples. That's not what it is.

I'm not afraid that they'll say we do it too: there's no evidence that we do. And in most courts, you need evidence.

[Toespi]

I remember distinctly that Clinton had a two mile barrier fence put up around the White House, gee didn't hear the ACLU complaining then. This is an absolute conspiracy that we are seeing right now by the radicals of this country to destroy Bush's Presidency.