No. and no.
Hey, YOU'RE gonna vote for someone just like Bustamante though!
Not that an admitted Social Liberal like yourself would mind in your, what did you call it? "New Republican Party"
Posted on 09/24/2003 7:18:47 AM PDT by NYC Republican
Schwarzenegger - 39% Bustamante - 32% McClintock - 18%
(Excerpt) Read more at surveyusa.com ...
No. and no.
Hey, YOU'RE gonna vote for someone just like Bustamante though!
Not that an admitted Social Liberal like yourself would mind in your, what did you call it? "New Republican Party"
It's never been about Arnold v. McClintock. It's been about the GOP becoming liberal. Arnold's environmental advisor is Robert Kennedy, Jr. One of his economic advisors is Warren Buffet. He is pro-abortion, pro-gun control, pro-illegal immigrants. He, just recently, came out w/ a decently conservative fiscal policy in a WSJ editorial. Until that, he never uttered anything even remotely to the right of Ted Kennedy. How conservatives jumped on his bandwagon early on is what is the most disturbing. Even if McClintock was never in the race, or had bowed out of the race, Arnold would still have been a lousy candidate that should never have received conservative support.
When are the Arnold supports and conservative politician bashers (it's always, from day one, been about bashing McClintock) going to understand this simple concept? It's about actually analyzing the candidate's positions, not simply supporting a letter after a name.
I hope Arnold does the right thing by CA if he wins. If he does not, and ends up being much more of a liberal than a "moderate", will all of the anti-conservatives agree never to support a liberal again? Will they agree to work on spreading the conservative message and electing conservative candidates? Because, that is how conservatives will eventually win. It is the self-defeating chant of "conservatives can't win, give me a liberal with an 'R'" that is a self-fulfilling prophesy. As long as the "moderates" spend more time defeating and bashing conservative candidates than liberals, conservatives probably won't win.
That is what the issue has been since day one. And, this issue will not go away even if Arnold wins in CA. How Arnold supporters do not understand this is beyond me. I personally could care less about McClintock, and whether or not he stays in the race. It does not change any of the above.
SurveyUSA has been oft-criticized because they utilize automated telephone polls, similar to the style used by Scott Rasmussen's now-defunct Portrait of America organization (which failed so spectacularly in the 2000 general election cycle). I myself was very skeptical of them heading into the 2002 campaigns. However, they turned out to have a very good track record. After Harris (which polled only a very few races) and Mason-Dixon, SurveyUSA was the next most accurate firm in terms of calling the correct winner and percent deviation of results. I'll be very interested to see if they can duplicate their 2002 success in 2004.
Well there you go, similarities! Every liberal, democrat, socialist, feminazi I know dislikes the actor!
The rest of us know the facts.
If you're pro-life and that's one of your major concerns about not voting for Arnold, voting for him isn't going to cause you to go get an abortion. Which means it's not going to affect the way you live your life.
On the other hand, if Boosturtaxes get in... you WILL be paying more taxes and have ALL kinds of messed up legislation getting thru that WILL affect your life! Think about THAT you die-hard McC supporters!
Since you are referring to Conservatives, I take that dodge of the issues it has as a compliment.
The rest of us know the facts.
Facts are fun. They are our friend, not yours. The facts about you (R)nold Groupies is kind of embarrassing.
First, Arnold Schwarzenegger is a strong leader who understands the problems facing California and can bring people together to help solve them.Second, Arnold Schwarzenneger will be the check we so desperately need in California government today. No matter what the outcome of the recall election, the legislature will continue to be controlled by liberals who over-spend, over-regulate and over-tax. California needs a Republican governor who can check the excesses of that legislature.
Third, Arnold Schwarzenegger is the only Republican that can beat Cruz Bustamante and ensure that, if the voters recall Gray Davis, he is replaced with a Governor who wants to take the state in a different direction.
In making this endorsement, however, I want to make it clear that I have the greatest respect for my Senate colleague Tom McClintock. I have known and worked with Tom for a number of years.
In fact, in 2002 I served as Co-Chairman of Tom's campaign for State Controller. In this volunteer capacity I helped raise more money for his campaign than anyone other than Tom himself. I look forward to helping elect Tom to statewide office in the future.
But at this time, in this election, I believe for Tom the governorship is simply a bridge too far. This eight-week recall campaign is three-fourths complete and Tom continues to be the third place candidate.
I also believe that his candidacy puts at risk not only the election of a Republican governor, but the recall itself.
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