An Analysis of Arnold Schwarzenegger's Environmental Policy

Arnold Schwarzenegger's Website / Vanity | Sept. 23, 2003 | Mark Edward Vande Pol, aka, Carry_Okie

[Carry_Okie]

Arianna Huffington is a clueless idiot.

[Artist]

This deserves another round of BTTTs.

Thanks, Carry_Okie.

[Carry_Okie]

You are quite welcome.

[Syncro]

"My wife and I were at the coast this past weekend, and much of the wildlife one now sees there -- albatross, sealions, elephant seals -- simply weren't on the coast 30 years ago, not in the numbers they are today."

I have not read this whole thread, just snippits.

I have been going to the California coast for 40+ years, and I don't see more or less sea life now than I did then.

Sealions, Elephant seals, Harbour sears (at the mouth of the river at Jenner) were in abundance then and are now.

No shortage of Sea Gulls...lol

Ano Nuevo Island has always been an area for the Sea lions there were thousands of them there 30 years ago.

Oh and as an aside, isn't an Albatross a necklace?

[SierraWasp]

A time to review BUMP!!!

Especially for the uninformed as this is being kept REAL QUIET!!!

[SierraWasp]

Besides... It's "Hear me now and believe me late-tah!"

[Torie]

Ping for later. You should really try to get a piece published by the WSJ Op Ed page. They would love this stuff.

[Carry_Okie]

Pretty damning material isn't it? The nonpoint TMDL story is the worst although I barely touched it.

I have actually met John Fund and he offered. I may forward this one to him just as an FYI. Sometimes it's better to get other people to handle these things. I'd rather be a guide than a crusader.

[SteveH]

This was precisely the problem to be addressed with the addition of MTBE into gasoline, and what do you know but a byproduct of MTBE in the atmosphere is formic acid, a known lung irritant.

IIRC formic acid is a naturally occuring substance, the primary irritant in ant, bee, and wasp stings, as well as olfactory ant trails. Another concern I recall hearing about is that MTBE, relative to the simple organic octane, has hundreds if not thousands of combustion byproducts due to incomplete combustion, similar to cigarette smoke. And similar to cigarette smoke, many of those complex organic chemical compounds from incomplete combustion are suspected or confirmed carcinogens. I wonder if some or all of this would have been apparent before the decision to push MTBE as a mandated oxygenate additive to vehicular gas.

Does this mean that Arnold will be against oxygenates? Well his chief advisor is Pete Wilson, who gave us the severity of the MTBE problem we have, requiring FAR more of it than did the EPA.

I didn't see it mentioned elsewhere in my skimming of the article, but IIRC, MTBE was initially a waste byproduct of cracking natural petroleum to produce gas. Originally he oil companies were thus required to find ways to dispose of it in an ecologically sound manner, and this was an expense passed along to consumers as part of the cost of production. After MTBE was mandated on a large scale, California refineries actually needed to ramp up deliberate production of this former waste byproduct to come up with the quantities needed to insert it into vehicle gas. A side effect of the entire mandate was that California gas production became a near monopoly since few if any other states were ignorant or stupid enough to require the MTBE additive in gas. The effect of the near monopoly was, and continues to be, that Californians pay a higher cost for vehicle gas than many if not most other states.

[SteveH]

IMHO, that's a hilarious cartoon with a lot of good info in it too, even if it does come from Arianna's site ;-).

[Carry_Okie]

I agree with her assessment of the problem, but not with her proposed solution.

[Kevin Curry]

Arianna Huffington is a clueless idiot.

True, but it's a funny clip. It pegs Arnold perfectly.

[Carry_Okie]

Especially that he is willing to do anything for power.

Gay porn? No problem. Harrass and intimidate his competitors with racial slurs. Part of the game. Sell violence for money? Don't be silly. Marry a loveless bitch? No biggie. Now what's it going to be?

[CounterCounterCulture]

Thanks for breaking it down.

Obviously such analysis is lost on the venomous amongst us who have already sacrificed ideology for voting for the only presumed winning *R*.

But for those still interested in issues and are open-minded, this is a good primer.

[Carry_Okie]

You are quite welcome.

Share it as you would, please.

[Carry_Okie]

My2Cents: "Let's face it -- it was probably written by a former Wilson official at CalEPA."

Not quite. I am going to repeat this post here in the interest of recordkeeping. The initial quote is from a rather aggressive article (i.e., I don't think much of it) by William F. Jasper where he quotes the LA Times:

"It was fashioned," the Times continued, "with the help of advisors brought in by Robert Kennedy." Those Kennedy advisers include enviro-activists Terry Tamminen, Robert Grady, Buzz Thompson, and Dan Emmett.

Well, well, well. It's just the passel of globalists one would expect.

Terry Tamminen, Executive Director of Environment Now

Robert Grady, Managing Director in Venture Capital, The Carlyle Group

Bob Grady is a Managing Director in Venture Capital at The Carlyle Group, a global private equity firm. Before joining Carlyle in 2000, Mr. Grady was Managing Director and a member of the Management Committee at Robertson Stephens, the San Francisco-based technology investment bank. At Robertson Stephens, Mr. Grady directed the eCommerce Investment Banking Group, and previously had directed the Business Services and Applied Technology Group and the Financial Sponsors Group. Mr. Grady was deeply involved in the sale of Robertson Stephens to Bank America Corporation in 1997 and the subsequent sale of BancAmerica Robertson Stephens to Bank Boston Corporation in 1998.

During the last seven years, Mr. Grady has also served on the faculty of The Stanford Graduate School of Business, where he has taught a course entitled "Strategic Decisions in a Regulated World." Prior to joining Robertson Stephens, Mr. Grady served in the White House as Deputy Assistant to President George H. W. Bush and as Executive Associate Director of the Office of Management and Budget (OMB). He had previously served as Chief Speechwriter and Senior Advisor for the successful 1988 Bush/Quayle Presidential Campaign, Director of Communications for New Jersey Governor Thomas H. Kean, and Chief of Staff to U.S. Congresswoman Millicent Fenwick.

Mr. Grady is a member of the Board of Directors of BlackBoard, Inc., Cidera, Inc., DevelopOnline Corp., InfoRocket and USBX, Inc., and is a member of the Advisory Board of Enron Corporation. He serves as a Trustee of Environmental Defense, is Vice Chairman of the Board of Resources for the Future, is a Director of the Technology Network ("TechNet") in Silicon Valley and is a member of the Harvard University Committee on the Environment. Mr. Grady is a graduate of Harvard College and the Stanford Graduate School of Business.

Just shocks the hell out of me.

Buzz Thompson, aka Barton H. Thompson, Jr, Robert E. Paradise Professor of Natural Resources Law and Vice Dean, Stanford Law School... and a big friend to Earthjustice.

Really warms my heart. And last, but not least...

Dan Emmet, President and CEO of Douglas Emmett Realty Advisors (owner of the Galleria).

Nothing like a developer looking to cash in on farmland.

[tubebender]

Bumping post #136...

[Kevin Curry]

Disturbing stuff . . . to conservatives who care.

Thanks for the solid detective work.

[Jeff Head]

It all stinks to high heaven.

Pig in a poke.

[Carry_Okie]

The problem is that this pig believes whatever he says, no matter what the situation. He is totally capable of mutually exclusive beliefs. A truly dangerous man.