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U.S. to Sharply Cut Number of High-Tech Work Visas
Reuters ^ | September 22, 2003 | Alan Elsner

Posted on 09/22/2003 12:14:29 PM PDT by AntiGuv

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The United States is about to cut the number of employment visas it offers to highly qualified foreign workers from 195,000 to 65,000, immigration experts said on Monday.

Unless Congress acts by the end of this month -- and there is little sign it will do so -- the change will automatically take effect on Oct. 1. Employers, especially technology companies, argue the move will hurt them and the economy.

The change will affect the number of H1-B visas that can be issued each fiscal year. The visas are mostly used to bring high-tech experts from Asia, especially from the Indian sub-continent, to work in the United States for up to three years.

"The fact that Congress doesn't seem anxious to act reflects the political climate, with a lack of jobs for Americans," said New York immigration lawyer Cyrus Mehta.

"The pressure to change the limit will build up again when the economy picks up."

The Senate Judiciary Committee held a hearing on the issue last week. Republican chairman Orrin Hatch of Utah noted that many U.S. high-tech workers are unemployed and the committee needed to find ways of helping them without hurting the country's ability to compete globally.

Vermont Democratic Sen. Patrick Leahy said: "Given the weakness of our current economy, and the rising unemployment we have experienced under President Bush's stewardship, many who supported the increase in 2000 now believe that 65,000 visas are sufficient."

But Patrick Duffy, Human Resources Attorney for Intel Corporation, said finding the best-educated engineering talent from around the world was critical to his company's future.

"We expect that we will continue to sponsor H-1B employees in the future for the simple reason that we cannot find enough U.S. workers with the advanced education, skills, and expertise we need," he said.

Elizabeth Dickson, director of immigration services for the Ingersoll-Rand Company, speaking on behalf of the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, said: "In the near-term, we simply must have access to foreign nationals. Many of them have been educated in the United States. By sending them home, we are at best sending them to our own foreign plant sites, and at worst to our competitors."

Immigration attorneys expect the new rules to set off a scramble by companies to fill their slots early before the ceiling is reached. How quickly that happens depends on the state of the economy, they said.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
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To: old3030
He has a problem with everything.


141 posted on 09/22/2003 3:13:39 PM PDT by rdb3 (Which is more powerful: The story or the warrior?)
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To: Southack
i think there is one thing you are missing:

you are assuming that these companies would want to
convert their currency back into US dollars. I
think they will use whatever currency is in their interest.

My prediction is that these multinational companies
will become entities independent from any particular nation,
the same way a particualr religion(Christianity is).
They will be more powerful than many nations, have tremendous influence over even large countries like the US
and dominate their politics. They will be able to influence elections, start/stop wars, change laws and basically move
with impunity. If a nation objects, they will just move elsewhere and deny them the benefit of their work, products, and taxes.
142 posted on 09/22/2003 3:14:56 PM PDT by vp_cal
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To: Lazamataz
Awkward. Replace with Hire me, JohnRob must. Inclined, should he be. Fix it, I will.

Sincerely, Yoda

143 posted on 09/22/2003 3:15:01 PM PDT by Jim Cane
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To: JohnGalt
The real culprit is government regulation that makes hiring an American employee so expensive;

Well I'll be. You finally said something that makes some sense.


144 posted on 09/22/2003 3:15:29 PM PDT by rdb3 (Which is more powerful: The story or the warrior?)
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To: Jim Cane
LOL!


145 posted on 09/22/2003 3:17:49 PM PDT by Lazamataz (I am the extended middle finger in the fist of life.)
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To: rdb3
He has a problem with everything.

Everything except having a problem with everything.

146 posted on 09/22/2003 3:18:45 PM PDT by Lazamataz (I am the extended middle finger in the fist of life.)
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To: doc30
Cutting the number of H1B's won't raise wages or increase employment for native workers if the workers will not accept the prevailing wage.

I think you're using the phrase "prevailing wage" loosely. If the "prevailing wage" is less than anyone will work for, how did that wage come to "prevail" in the first place?

When we look at how you are using the phrase, we see that we are going in circles, and we are back to the assertion: "Importing H1B workers is a way to suppress wages in the US."

147 posted on 09/22/2003 3:19:02 PM PDT by Yeti
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To: AntiGuv
U.S. to Sharply Cut Number of High-Tech Work Visas

Here's the doom & gloom perspective - just another reason for bastard multinational corporations to outsource jobs overseas. Sorry, just another day in the neighborhood. Nothing to see here, please move along.

148 posted on 09/22/2003 3:20:16 PM PDT by searchandrecovery (It just doesn't matter. It just doesn't matter.)
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To: JohnGalt
Rather agnostic on the subject, but I am amazed that such a wealthy element of the middle class can accomplish such a labor market protection but those at the bottom of the labor market can't catch a break on closed borders.

It's a start. Additional measures I would like to see:


149 posted on 09/22/2003 3:25:11 PM PDT by SauronOfMordor (Java/C++/Unix/Web Developer === (Finally employed again! Whoopie))
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To: Southack
If the U.S. Dollar loses its foreign exchange value, then all of those offshore ventures and industries will become unprofitable overnight and will die soon thereafter.

I'm all for it. Devalue the dollar and let 'em choke on shipping costs.

150 posted on 09/22/2003 3:26:59 PM PDT by Yeti
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To: AntiGuv
I hope this means that the laid off American hi tech workers have a chance to get a job again, wouldn't that be nice? We need to all write our "elected leaders" in Congress to see if they agree with us. www.numbersusa.com is a good place to send free faxes.
151 posted on 09/22/2003 3:31:45 PM PDT by janetgreen
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To: Lunatic Fringe
I agree, some things do require local support but in general the ability to remotely manage servers and data has increased significantly. Add to that the redundancy built into both servers and storage and you have a system that when it fails it just calls home. Sometime later a field repair person shows up and swaps out the problem.

As for H1B visas reduction being good news I'm not convinced. It might result in a small increase in local hiring but in general it doesn't address the real problem, the imbalance between the cost of business in the US and the cost of business overseas. It doesn't have to be the same but it can't be as disconnected as it is now. California is the primary example of these economic dynamics at work. The only difference is for California lower business cost are as close as Nevada, Arizona, Idaho, Colorado, Texas, Kansas, Missouri, ....
152 posted on 09/22/2003 3:31:46 PM PDT by mpreston
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To: Southack
I think that it's good that you mention quality, which is a point that seems to be often lost in H1B visa argument.

I am a software guru for a small company (less then 250 people) and in my experience the foreign workers (at other companies) whether they be H1B visa holders or whatever is that they are not paticularly creative or innovative, and are often difficult to communicate with/to, and posess a narrow range of skills.

Of course this can be said about the majority of American born programmers who's jobs they took.

Having not only survived this latest high tech downturn with my job intact, but also having increased my salary every year I have developed a three simple guidelines:

1. Provide value for you company by providing a wide variety of skills. I am the Senior Software Engineer, Project Lead, DBA, Web Admin, E-Mail Admin and general all around technical guru for the company I work for.

2. Find out which of your skills is of the greatest value to your company needs and empasize those skills. In my case my company needs software fas so we use languages and methodologies that allow us to deliver products faster then any of our competition, though they have more resources (programmers) to throw at a paticular program.

3. And this one is the most important. Never work for a large company. Large companies treat people like dirt. Nameless faceless VP hand out pink slips without ever knowing shit about the people they are laying off or their role in the company. When I negotiate a raise or a bonus I go right in the President/Owners offices and hammer it out with him face to face. I know him as a person. I would never work any other way. If I couldn't work at a small company I would quit and work for myself.

153 posted on 09/22/2003 3:31:57 PM PDT by Smogger
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To: Yeti
If the "prevailing wage" is less than anyone will work for, how did that wage come to "prevail" in the first place?

I need to do some research on the rise, fall, and rebirth of slave societies. There's probably a point in every civilization wherein even the serfs become too expensive to maintain and life becomes so cheap that those with the gold cast their eyes about for easy-to-defeat enemies of the state or comparative savages and figure, "What the hey! Why incure ongoing costs when you can get free help with a one time cost upfront?" And another empire suddenly gets bankrolled.

155 posted on 09/22/2003 3:39:07 PM PDT by Jim Cane
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To: johnb838
shouldn't take any guff off a bunch of little brown british wannabees either.

Give 'em hell, johnb!

156 posted on 09/22/2003 3:48:48 PM PDT by Yeti
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To: Lunatic Fringe
During economic growth, I would agree with you.

Hey, let them eat cake.

157 posted on 09/22/2003 3:54:43 PM PDT by itsahoot (Article III Section 2 U.S. Constitution)
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To: trini
show me the statistics of those who have taken their H1B and turned it into a citizenship...

I don't know about that H1B, but Ford buses and vans work real well....Oh never mind, different program.

158 posted on 09/22/2003 4:01:43 PM PDT by itsahoot (Article III Section 2 U.S. Constitution)
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To: mpreston
The root cause is economic competitiveness in the form or taxes and wages.

Sure it is, greed has nothing to do with it.

159 posted on 09/22/2003 4:05:28 PM PDT by itsahoot (Article III Section 2 U.S. Constitution)
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To: Jim Cane
There's probably a point in every civilization wherein even the serfs become too expensive to maintain

I was on another thread recently, and there was a discussion in which an employer asserted that American workers are just spoiled. He justfied this by pointing out the difficulty he was having finding and keeping $8/hr workers at his business.

It occured to me later that if the boss in question had actually owned the employees, he probably wouldn't be able to keep them for that price. It certainly costs much more than that to keep a prisoner, which is approximately what you would have to do keep a slave.

160 posted on 09/22/2003 4:10:17 PM PDT by Yeti
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