[Owen]

Everyone has to stop this and recognize reality.

Winning Matters. If you don't win, you accomplish nothing. Pretending otherwise is equivalent to Jesse Jackson's "We sent them a message" quotes when he dropped out of the Dem nomination race several years ago (after losing primary after primary). It is self aggrandizing ego to pretend that running and losing is a significant accomplishment.

Winning Matters. Losing Crushes. If you lose, you award the Democrats control and the power to spend *your* tax dollars as they see fit. If that is what you want, then take the action that best ensures a Democrat victory.

[tallhappy]

Winning Matters. If you don't win, you accomplish nothing.

Yes. I agree. I am not a purist.

I do not want Schwarzenegger to win.

McClintock is the best candidate. Bustamante is horrible and I do not want him to win either.

But he does less long term harm than Schwarzenegger.

A Schwarzenegger victory effectvely ends the Republican party as a conservative party. Not an ideological pure party - but one that is on balance more conservative than liberal.

[SteveH]

Winning matters, but only when you have not abandoned principle. A win which sacrifices principles is in fact, a loss.