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Caffeine found in Peterson's body
The Modesto Bee ^ | Sept 22, 2003 | John Cote' and Garth Stapely

Posted on 09/22/2003 5:34:44 AM PDT by runningbear

Caffeine found in Peterson's body

Caffeine found in Peterson's body

By JOHN COTÉ
and GARTH STAPLEY

Published: September 22, 2003, 04:31:40 AM PDT

Laci Peterson had caffeine in her system when she died, a toxicology report shows, while her unborn son, Conner, did not, a source familiar with the tests said. Toxicology documents also show that police specifically asked medical examiners to test Peterson's remains for the "date rape" drug GHB, and that none was found.

"Toxicology testing performed on skeletal muscle is positive only for caffeine and PEA (decomposition product)," according to a report from the Contra Costa County coroner's office, the agency that performed the autopsies.

The presence of caffeine in Peterson's body and not in her unborn son's does not, however, indicate that Conner was outside his mother's womb when she was killed, forensic analysts said.

Attorneys for Scott Peterson, who is charged with murdering his wife and son, may try to use the toxicology tests to raise questions about the circumstances of the deaths, experts speculated.

Prosecutors maintain that Peterson murdered his wife on Dec. 23 or 24, when she was nearly eight months pregnant, and then pretended she was missing while a massive search ensued.

Laci's and Conner's remains were found in mid-April about a mile apart along the eastern shore of San Francisco Bay, within four miles of the spot where Peterson told police he launched his boat for a solo fishing trip on Christmas Eve.

Peterson's defense team maintains that authorities mistakenly targeted the 30-year-old fertilizer salesman, floating theories that include cult members and a suspicious van -- and casting doubt on whether Peterson killed his wife in the days before Christmas.

Evidence suggesting that Conner was born before he was killed would aid the defense, said Stephen Schoenthaler, a criminal justice professor at California State University, Stanislaus.

That is because Peterson would appear to have had little opportunity to kill while under the police and media scrutiny that developed soon after he told family members that his wife was missing.

"It all comes down to how much (caffeine) was in her, and was it a reliable measure," Schoenthaler said.

Three forensic experts said it would be uncommon to find measurable amounts of caffeine in the body of an unborn child even if its mother consumed large quantities of it. That would suggest that the Peterson test results are meaningless.

"Trace amounts can get through, but trying to find it for a toxicology (report) is an exercise in futility," said forensic pathologist Dr. Harry J. Bonnell of San Diego. "The odds of it passing into the fetus are minimal to nil."

Dr. Mary Case, chief medical examiner in St. Louis County, Mo., and an expert in child death, frequently reviews toxicology reports on fetuses whose mothers are suspected of substance abuse. She said she has never seen an unborn child with measurable amounts of caffeine.

"In the usual amount of caffeine that people have, it just wouldn't show up (in a fetus)," Case said.

Dr. Richard T. Mason, forensic pathologist for the Santa Cruz County coroner's office, said the placenta is more effective in blocking out caffeine than other chemicals, such as cocaine.

Caffeine can stay several days in the body of an adult after consumption, Bonnell said. Common sources are coffee, tea, sodas, chocolate and some over-the-counter medication.

Friend: Caffeine was avoided

Laci Peterson, a 27-year-old substitute teacher, enjoyed coffee but avoided the beverage -- and its caffeine -- when she was pregnant, said a friend who asked to remain anonymous.

"She had tried to limit or stop drinking caffeinated drinks," the friend said. "She did drink coffee before she became pregnant."

Bonnell acknowledged that members of Peterson's defense team could attempt to show that Laci consumed something with caffeine after giving birth.

"The world could also end tomorrow," Bonnell said. "They can blow smoke with it, but the fact that it was not in the baby certainly is not proof that the baby had to have been born."

Mason also noted that Laci Peterson would have had multiple opportunities to ingest something with caffeine in it.

"If she was home alone and had a cup of coffee or cup of tea, who's to say?" Mason asked. "I'd be hard put to make something out of that."

Euphoria-producing drug

In asking for the GHB test, police investigators sought evidence of the depressant that can render people unconscious, particularly when mixed with alcohol.

In low doses, gamma hydroxy butyrate produces a high or euphoric feeling as inhibitions are depressed, making it a popular drug in the club scene.

Mason said that if the drug had appeared in this case, it could have been an indication that Peterson had been drugged in an attempt to subdue her before she was killed.

"That would be the obvious inference," Mason said. "I don't know why they looked for that, unless they had some indication that he had access to it."

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Geragos, Cadee Condit making Modesto night scene

Geragos, Cadee Condit making Modesto night scene

By GARTH STAPLEY
BEE STAFF WRITER

Published: September 20, 2003, 09:44:39 AM PDT

In the space of 19 months, two nationally watched tragedies emerged from Modesto with the disappearances of Chandra Levy and Laci Peterson.

Now some supporting cast members from both dramas are appearing together in Modesto night spots.

Murder suspect Scott Peterson's lead attorney, Mark Geragos, won't say why he's been sharing drinks and cigars with Cadee Condit, daughter of former Rep. Gary Condit, other than that she's a client.

Geragos represented the congressman during the media frenzy surrounding Levy's disappearance. The 24-year-old Modestan had just completed an internship with the U.S. Bureau of Prisons when she vanished in Washington, D.C., in spring 2001.

Her remains were found just over a year later in Rock Creek Park in the nation's capital, and the coroner there declared the case a homicide. Condit has not denied reports of an affair with Levy. No arrests have been made and no suspects named.

Geragos said of Cadee Condit: "She's a client, that's all I can say."

The 45-year-old celebrity lawyer from Los Angeles and Condit, who turned 28 Sunday, have been reported together four times in recent weeks, according to several sources, including employees of the establishments.

They were seen Aug. 20 having drinks in Cheroot Lounge, a 10th Street cigar lounge. Geragos and Condit were joined by Gary Condit, who now lives in Arizona.

The next day, Geragos and Cadee Condit shared drinks and appetizers at the Harvest Moon restaurant on I Street, and later that night were spotted at Cheroot. The two were seen at the lounge again Sept. 10.

Condit stood by her father during his unsuccessful re-election campaign last year, appearing on national TV on his behalf.

Calls to the Condit family home in Ceres were not answered.

Geragos visits Modesto periodically in connection with the Peterson case. Peterson faces the death penalty on charges that he killed his wife, Laci, and their unborn son, Conner.

Geragos' predilection for cigars was documented when he celebrated with a smoke at a post-trial party for Susan McDougal. He represented her when she was found not guilty of an obstruction of justice charge brought in connection with the Clinton-Whitewater case.

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Police divers return to bay where Laci Peterson was found

Police divers return to bay where Laci Peterson was found

The Associated Press Saturday, September 20, 2003

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(09-20) 16:35 PDT MODESTO, Calif. (AP) --

Police divers returned to San Francisco Bay on Friday, about five months after the bodies of Laci Peterson and her unborn son came ashore there, according to a report in the Modesto Bee.

"We were at the bay today," Modesto Police spokesman Doug Ridenour told the newspaper. He also noted that police went to a marina in Richmond, across the bay from San Francisco, but he would not say what detectives were doing there.

"That's all I can say," Ridenour said, referring to a gag order in the Peterson case. Ridenour did not return calls to The Associated Press on Saturday.

Laci Peterson, who was then pregnant, disappeared from her Modesto home Christmas Eve. In April her body and that of her unborn baby were found along the shore of San Francisco Bay south of Richmond, where Scott Peterson said he was fishing when his wife vanished.

Scott Peterson, 30, has been charged with two counts of murder in the case, and could face the death penalty if convicted.

Earlier this month, the preliminary hearing in Scott Peterson's trial was postponed until October to give the defense more time to review .....

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Laci hubby in new plot

Laci hubby in new plot

Snitch says he looked to have her kidnapped

Scott Peterson

Police have a possible new witness in the Laci Peterson murder case: a jailbird who claims Scott Peterson talked to neo-Nazis about kidnapping his wife a month before she was slain.

The Fresno Bee reported yesterday that Cory Lee Carroll, 34, passed a lie detector test about his November encounter with Peterson - who is charged with killing his wife and unborn son last Christmas Eve.

Carroll's lawyer contacted the authorities, who interviewed the inmate last week, the Bee reported. Prosecutors and lawyers for Scott Peterson declined to comment on the development, citing a gag order in the case.

By Carroll's account, he ran into Peterson at a Fresno, Calif., strip club and went with him to a local bar and fast-food joint.

After learning that Carroll had a criminal record, Peterson asked if he knew anyone who could steal his wife's car for an insurance scam, Carroll claims. For $300, Carroll said, he introduced Peterson to two men nicknamed Dirty and Skeeter, members of a neo-Nazi gang.

When he overheard something about a kidnapping, Carroll said he left. When he got back, Dirty and Skeeter were telling Peterson they would take care of something, Carroll said. Carroll .....

Peterson Family Disputes Kidnap Plot Report

Peterson Family Disputes Kidnap Plot Report

Monday , September 22, 2003

The family of Scott Peterson (search) has disputed an inmate’s claims that the accused killer plotted the kidnapping of his pregnant wife weeks before she disappeared.

Janey Peterson told Fox News that she was with Scott Peterson and his wife, Laci, in San Diego, Calif., on Nov. 29, the day Cory Lee Carroll claimed he met with her brother-in-law in Fresno. The meeting was detailed in a report published Saturday by the Fresno Bee.

Carroll, a parolee jailed since August after missing a court date, told investigators that he first met Scott Peterson last November at the City Lights strip club in Fresno. After a conversation in which Carroll revealed he had been in prison, Peterson asked for help in finding someone to steal his wife’s car as part of an insurance fraud scheme, according to the Bee report.

Carroll told investigators that he was paid $300 to set up a meeting with two men known as Tony, aka “Dirty,” and Anthony, aka “Skeeter.” The men were both members of a neo-Nazi prison gang known as the Nazi Low Riders (search).

Carroll claimed he and the two men met with Peterson in a northeast Fresno restaurant on Nov. 29. The four went on to a nearby motel where the subject of a kidnapping plot came up, the Bee reported.

But Janey Peterson claims she, her husband, and Scott and Laci Peterson (search) were together in San Diego Nov. 29, two days after a baby shower had been held there for the pregnant 27-year-old.

Calling Carroll’s claims in the Bee report “all lies,” she told Fox News that it would have been impossible for Scott Peterson to have left San Diego midday, driven more than seven hours to Modesto, dropped his wife and presents off at their home, then have driven another hour-plus to Fresno for the alleged meeting. Peterson said she was trying to confirm the exact time Scott and Laci Peterson left San Diego that day.

Carroll’s attorney, Frank Muna, told Fox News that his client disclosed his story only after recognizing Scott Peterson on television after his April arrest for the murders of Laci Peterson and their unborn child, Conner. Muna said he notified law enforcement after his client passed a polygraph test administered by a former Fresno police lieutenant.

Polygraph examinations are not admissible in court. However, a memo summarizing the test obtained by the Bee shows Carroll correctly identified the model of Peterson’s Ford F-150 pickup. In addition, the van like the one Dirty and Skeeter owned was described by a witness as having been across the street from Laci Peterson’s home the day of her Dec. 24 disappearance. Police have since played down reports of a so-called suspicious van.

Carroll said he walked out of the Nov. 29 meeting for 45 minutes once he heard one of the three men say something about kidnapping. His attorney told Fox News that his client had nothing to gain by coming forward, and hinted that his life may now be in danger as a result.

Investigators would not comment on Carroll’s claims to the Bee due to a court-imposed gag order.

The Modesto Bee reported that police divers returned to San Francisco Bay on Friday, where the bodies of Laci and Conner Peterson......

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Inmate: Peterson pursued kidnap

Inmate: Peterson pursued kidnap

By MICHAEL BAKER
THE FRESNO BEE

Published: September 20, 2003, 09:30:16 AM PDT

FRESNO -- A jail inmate here says Scott Peterson, during a November meeting with two members of a neo-Nazi gang, broached the idea of kidnapping his wife.

Laci Peterson, 27 and pregnant, disappeared from her Modesto home just before Christmas, and her remains washed ashore in San Francisco Bay in mid-April. Her 30-year-old husband is charged with the murders of his wife and their unborn son.

Inmate Cory Lee Carroll's information led Modesto police and district attorney's investigators to the Fresno County Jail to interview him this week, said his attorney, Frank Muna.

The attorney said he contacted authorities after Carroll's account checked out in a lie detector test administered by Muna's private investigator.

Detective Doug Ridenour, police spokesman, said a gag order prevents him from talking about the Peterson case.

In general, he said, law enforcement has a duty to follow up all leads: "It doesn't matter where or what time, if it has a potential connection to a case, we're going to investigate it."

The district attorney's office did not respond to inquiries, but in the past has referred to the gag order when questioned about potential evidence.

Peterson's lead attorney, Mark Geragos, also cited the gag order. "Unfortunately, I can't comment," he said. "I would love to, but unfortunately, I can't."

Peterson has pleaded innocent in his death penalty case. A preliminary hearing is set for Oct. 20 to let a judge determine whether there is sufficient evidence for a trial. Lie detector test results are not admissible in court.

The 34-year-old Carroll's statement is detailed in a memo summarizing his lie detector exam. The examiner, Melvin W. King, a former Fresno police lieutenant, wrote the memo; The Bee obtained a copy on Friday.

Muna said the memo was identical to one that he received from King. The memo's writer said: "I can't confirm or deny anything. It's been made very clear to me, I'm under a gag order."

According to the memo, Carroll was truthful when he gave this statement:

He met Peterson in November at the City Lights strip club in Fresno. Peterson, who had discovered that Carroll had spent time in prison, asked whether Carroll knew anyone who could steal his wife's car. Peterson wanted to report the theft for insurance purposes.

Peterson agreed to pay Carroll $300 to set up a meeting with two men known to Carroll as Tony, who goes by the name "Dirty," and Anthony, also known as "Skeeter," members of the Nazi Low Riders gang.

Peterson met with Carroll and the others Nov. 29 at Chili's Grill & Bar in Fresno, and the four continued talking at a motel.

Carroll heard "Peterson mention to Dirty and Skeeter something about kidnapping Laci," and left because he did not want to get involved. He returned 45 minutes later and said he heard the gang members say they were going to take care of something.

Carroll said Dirty and Skeeter often lived in a beige van with orange and red stripes. A witness in the Peterson case said she saw a van across the street from the Peterson home on the day Laci Peterson disappeared. The van's description is similar to Dirty and Skeeter's van.

Police have discounted reports of a suspicious van, saying it belonged to landscapers.

Muna said Carroll had nothing to gain by coming forward: "We've ........

(Excerpt) Read more at modestobee.com ...


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To: runningbear
1st article posted:

"Three forensic experts said it would be uncommon to find measurable amounts of caffeine in the body of an unborn child even if its mother consumed large quantities of it. That would suggest that the Peterson test results are meaningless.

"Trace amounts can get through, but trying to find it for a toxicology (report) is an exercise in futility," said forensic pathologist Dr. Harry J. Bonnell of San Diego. "The odds of it passing into the fetus are minimal to nil."

Dr. Mary Case, chief medical examiner in St. Louis County, Mo., and an expert in child death, frequently reviews toxicology reports on fetuses whose mothers are suspected of substance abuse. She said she has never seen an unborn child with measurable amounts of caffeine.

Maybe satanic aliens beamed down, kipnapped Laci and injected her with caffeine and then removed the unborn baby. "In the usual amount of caffeine that people have, it just wouldn't show up (in a fetus)," Case said. Dr. Richard T. Mason, forensic pathologist for the Santa Cruz County coroner's office, said the placenta is more effective in blocking out caffeine than other chemicals, such as cocaine.

321 posted on 09/25/2003 5:22:19 PM PDT by nmh
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To: Velveeta
I agree. I know he is guilty. I do not need evidence. It was when I looked at him and the way that he looked around the room. I knew that he did it. Only a killer would have done that.
322 posted on 09/25/2003 5:23:39 PM PDT by Silas
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To: runningbear
Actually this one about two men nicknamed Dirty and Skeeter, members of a neo-Nazi gang has possibilities. Maybe their job was to just kill her and Scott took care of dumping the body. He sure had NO reason to remain married much less have child support payments from day one. Ole Scott was a cheap one - $300 to have his wife and child killed. Geesh, how low can a fertilizer salesman go.
323 posted on 09/25/2003 5:27:27 PM PDT by nmh
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To: Silas
So everybody in the world is a "newbie" but you. (clap, clap, clap applause for your longevity) Pat yourself on the back Silas, cause I don't think anyone else will. Don't you get sick of puffing your chest out about that everywhere you post?

Maybe that's the crux of it all, isn't it? You wanted this to be "your special forum"....you even have an earlier registration date then Jim Robinson. How many times have you puffed that one out? I think you're just jealous that FR isn't YOURS. You still TRY to control things though, but to no avail.

There's not a soul who cares, Silas.
324 posted on 09/25/2003 5:27:50 PM PDT by Velveeta
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To: runningbear
Actually this one about two men nicknamed Dirty and Skeeter, members of a neo-Nazi gang has possibilities. Maybe their job was to just kill her and Scott took care of dumping the body. He sure had NO reason to remain married much less have child support payments from day one. Ole Scott was a cheap one - $300 to have his wife and child killed. Geesh, how low can a fertilizer salesman go.

BTW where ARE the two men nicknamed Dirty and Skeeter, members of a neo-Nazi gang? Hopefully not another dead end.

325 posted on 09/25/2003 5:28:04 PM PDT by nmh
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To: runningbear
BTW coffee isn't the ONLY product that contains caffeine. Mayb eshe didn't succeed in kicking the habit of caffeine sodas.
326 posted on 09/25/2003 5:29:14 PM PDT by nmh
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To: Velveeta
ROFLMAO!!!
327 posted on 09/25/2003 5:29:27 PM PDT by Jackie-O
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To: runningbear
Jeez Louise...Geragos and Cadee Condit? Pathology squared!

For the uninitiated: Cadee Condit is one of those incredibly hot women that I would never even dream of touching with a ten-foot pole.

328 posted on 09/25/2003 5:31:11 PM PDT by L.N. Smithee (Just because I don't think like you doesn't mean I don't think for myself)
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To: Velveeta; All
By the way Vel, or anyone...how long does one have to be a member to stop being labeled a "newbie" by geniouses like Silas??
329 posted on 09/25/2003 5:32:59 PM PDT by Jackie-O (Allthough at my age it's kind of flattering to be called new!)
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To: blondee123
LOL Doesn't that statement about an imminent arrest just crack ya right up. Geragos is so over.!! I mean, he has made a huge mess of this case. His Ass should be fired.
330 posted on 09/25/2003 6:00:59 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks belong South)
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To: Silas
I think you may even need help - not just closure!! Sheesh. Talk about a run on sentence.
331 posted on 09/25/2003 6:09:07 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks belong South)
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To: Velveeta
Can we please stick to the all-important topic of Laci's cervix.
332 posted on 09/25/2003 6:21:14 PM PDT by Silas
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To: Silas
Didn't you say that you wanted us to stop talking like that??? Are you back from your casual walk by the bay???
333 posted on 09/25/2003 6:25:51 PM PDT by Jackie-O (One can certainly afford to live there if they still live with their parents.)
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To: Canadian Outrage
Sorry about my sentence structure. Not all of us can be geniouses I guess.
334 posted on 09/25/2003 6:30:28 PM PDT by Silas
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To: Silas
Pay attention! We covered the cervix. It was closed. Conner would have lived for a few minutes after Laci died.
335 posted on 09/25/2003 6:30:56 PM PDT by Velveeta
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To: Jackie-O
I did say that but I think I'm getting into it as much as everyone else now. I am really intrigued by Laci's cervix and I wonder if it was actually intact or not. That could be crucial to the case.

This could be a death-penalty case if this is a multiple murder. If one person is murdered, then it won't be a death-penalty case. Baby Conner could be considered a person, so it may be a death penalty case. Maybe it could be considered a hate-crime because Scott may have had violence against women in his background. So maybe it could be a death-penalty case based on that.
336 posted on 09/25/2003 6:36:31 PM PDT by Silas
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To: Velveeta
Sorry.
337 posted on 09/25/2003 6:37:08 PM PDT by Silas
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To: Silas
So, what makes you tick Silas? What are your "hot button" issues? Politics? War? Weather reports? Conspiracy theories (actually I like those too)?

338 posted on 09/25/2003 6:45:41 PM PDT by Velveeta
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To: Velveeta; Devil_Anse; Sandylapper
Richard has been found!!! I pinged ya over there!!!
339 posted on 09/25/2003 6:52:54 PM PDT by Jackie-O
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To: Velveeta
Yeah, all those things can be interesting. I suppose that I could get into Laci also but I'm not. But I have to agree with many posters here, I have come off like a loser on some of these posts.

I think that I am going to leave the Laci Peterson thread in peace. Enjoy the case everyone but do not lose sight of the fact that it is essentially meaningless. Then again, it's all meaningless.
340 posted on 09/25/2003 7:10:12 PM PDT by Silas
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