Hank,
The difference between Gamaliel and the Christians and Hitler and the Jews and us and the transhumanists is coercion to the poiint of killing those who display the undesired characteristics. The eugenics tactics have already begun, with world wide pressure to abort or euthanize.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/986871/posts We will stop them the same way we have always stopped the killers. We've never been 100%, and some periods of history have seemed to favor the worst killers. But, the line of human thought and growth has been toward more, not less, protection of the right to life and liberty.
In your post 50, you imply that certain political distinctions which apply to adult humans should not apply to the "newly born."
Have you changed your former belief that humans become persons at birth?
I'd still suggest that your read Robert Spitzers' "Healing the Culture" to clear up some of your confusion about human rights and what they mean in context of government and living a happy life.
In your post 50, you imply that certain political distinctions which apply to adult humans should not apply to the "newly born." Have you changed your former belief that humans become persons at birth?
You are trying to make something where there is nothing. Do you think new-borns should be allowed to vote? Here is a more practical one (because it is actually happening). Do you think children should be allowed to "sue" their parents for spanking them, or that the state should be allowed to prosecute parents who use corporeal punishment as abusers? Certainly if an adult did to another adult what parents do to their children it would be considered a crime. Unborn, newly born, and all children must be treated differently than adults.
Hank