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To: tpaine
Your 'fanatical devotion' is evident in your insistence that our Founders considered religious promotion ESSENTIAL to the preservation of our Republic. Nothing in our constitution backs your theory..

Oh really?? How about the words of the Founders themselves?

"Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other" - John Adams

"The only foundation for a republic is to be laid in religion. Without this there can be no virtue, and without virtue there can BE NO LIBERTY, and liberty is the object and life of all republican governments" - Benjamin Rush.

"Statesmen may plan and speculate for liberty, but it is Religion and morality alone which can establish the Principles upon which Freedom can securely stand" - John Adams

"Whenever the pillars of Christianity are overthrown, our present republican form of government and all the blessings which flow from them, must fall with them." - Jedediah Morse

Your ignorance of what the Founders said and considered themselves because such belief was not written in the Cosntitution itself is an absurd assumption on your part. It was a universal no-brainer for the men who penned the Founding Documents that liberty and freedom come from, and are given by God - not by men. As such, any abandonment of following the morality of God's laws as revealed in scripture was understood to be the death of liberty, and ultimately our republic. The Founders themselves experienced the tyranny that comes when the written law based upon God's Laws was usurped by men in power. That is precisely what the Crown of England did, and why our cause for Independence was built upon re-establishing that law of God as the sole governance by which men ought to be governed.

This is why Franklin said when asked what kind of Government they had given to us "A republic Madam....if you can keep it".

Your zealotry has more in common with communism that Koestlers anti-statist inellectualism.

Hardly. Your sad attempt to equate religious principle and our foundation that was built upon the laws of God as a zealous communion with communism showcases your complete ignorance of our History, the Founders and WHY they established this nation as they had.

In short, by your quote above, our Founders would be considered Communist tyrants by you. Sorry, your revisionism doesn't work when compared to the actual writings and statements by the Founders themselves. Or do I assume you agree with Thurgood Marshall?

It is Atheism and Intellectualism that is and was the foundation for the greatest tyranny, murder and opression by secular regimes during the last 100 years.

169 posted on 09/22/2003 10:06:57 AM PDT by INVAR
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To: INVAR
It is Atheism and Intellectualism that is and was the foundation for the greatest tyranny, murder and opression by secular regimes during the last 100 years.
-invar-


All the overzealous advocates of the various isms can fairly be described as fanatics. -- Thus:

"The continuous disasters of man's history are mainly due to his excessive capacity and urge to become identified with a tribe, nation, church or cause, and to espouse its credo uncritically and enthusiastically, even if its tenets are contrary to reason, devoid of self-interest and detrimental to the claims of self-preservation."
170 posted on 09/22/2003 10:59:40 AM PDT by tpaine ( I'm trying to be Mr Nice Guy, but politics keep getting in me way. ArnieRino for Governator)
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