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To: cowboy up
In the next war we'll just hire Ruder and Finn as our public relations firm and then bulldozer the memorial. It worked just fine when Tudjman took out the Jasenovac memorial. Nobody said a peep.
595 posted on 10/17/2003 3:13:00 PM PDT by getoffmylawn (Don't believe the hype. About 1/3 of Chicago is grinning ear to ear now that the Cubs choked)
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To: getoffmylawn
The Serbs had a PR firm - but when your clients undermine every effort you make to present them in a good light, what can you do?

Also, Jasenovac was not bulldozed - the memorial still exists to this day, and Tudjman himself even visited it in 1996, appearances being thought important and all.

What did happen at Jasenovac in this last war is that the JNA occupied it in 1991, a Bosnian Serb took the Museum's documents back to Bosnia, and then they made it back to the Museum by way of the US Holocaust Museum in 2001.

596 posted on 10/17/2003 4:26:02 PM PDT by Hoplite
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To: getoffmylawn; Hoplite
Don't listen to Hoplite. He is, as usual, giving a partial information to suit Hoplite's agenda. The real reason Tudjman went to visit Jasenovac and why the Coratian Ministry of Culture (some culture!) is renovating the place is because Anti Defamation League, a very influential Jewish American organization, basically told Tudjman to lay off Jasenovac. Eager to repair his relations with his paymasters in Washington, the scumbag complied, renounced his racist remarks (like the one "I am lucky, my wife is neither Jewish nor Serbian"), apologized to Israel and got anointed.

Tudjman wanted to keep Jasenovac only if he could bury the executioners next to the executed. Pretty gross.

What Hoplite didn't tell you, but he surely knew, is that the ADL intervention just happened to be in 1996, the year Tudjman paid a visti to the place -- what a coincidence!!!! Way to go Hoplite! Does it get any more transparent?

599 posted on 10/17/2003 6:27:44 PM PDT by kosta50
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To: getoffmylawn
Two more things, the Tudjman visit was in June, and the ADL warning was in February 1996.

The organization in question was Croatian "Institute for Culture and Information." Don't know what ministry it falls under. It's not really important.

600 posted on 10/17/2003 6:32:51 PM PDT by kosta50
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To: getoffmylawn
It was the Jasenovac museum the Croats attacked, not the memorial:

http://www.balkan-archive.org.yu/kosta/pisma/l-buchenvald.html

He [New York Times reporter Chris Hedges] falsely asserts that Croatian Serbs "trashed the small Museum in Jasenovac." In fact, the Jasenovac Museum was destroyed by departing Croatian troops who captu res the area briefly in September of 1991, according to accounts in the London " Independent", the Washington "Times" and a documentary film by Michael Ignatieff .

John Ranz, Chairman Survivors of the Buchenwald Camp


601 posted on 10/17/2003 7:52:49 PM PDT by joan
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