[=Intervention=]

"Read the definition that I gave you of a liberal."

That definition has not been correct ever since the '60's and when the McGovernites took over the Democratic party. Look around you. The people that call themselves liberals do NOT support the things that you say they do. I'm still waiting for your examples of a liberal politician that supports these things, or one that truly loves his/her country, or a liberal that is not a leftist.

[Eva]

Just because they call themselves liberals, does not make it so. Would you expect them to call themselves Marxists?
Don't aid and abett their deceit by making the same intentional mis-statement. Liberal is by far too nice a label for a leftist.