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Schwarzenegger: McClintock a Pawn of Pro-Bustamante Indians
NewsMax ^ | Spet. 19, 2003 | Carl Limbacher

Posted on 09/19/2003 8:52:17 PM PDT by FairOpinion

American Indians who are supporting Democrat front-runner Cruz Bustamante in California are also promoting Republican state Sen. Tom McClintock, and GOP front-runner Arnold Schwarzenegger is furious.

"I think that as far as Tom McClintock is concerned, I think the question I have for him is, what side is he on?" Schwarzenegger said Thursday. "Is he on the side of the Republicans? Does he represent the Republicans, or does he represent Bustamante?"

Schwarzenegger suggested that the tribes were abetting Bustamante by trying to split the Republican vote.

"They are financing his commercials and TV spots and all that," said Schwarzenegger, who doesn't take money from Indian tribes. "He knows they're financing him not because they want him to be governor. They just want to interfere with the process so that Bustamante wins. He has to decide which side is he on, the Republicans' or Bustamante's."

McClintock called Schwarzenegger's comments "a ridiculous statement by a man who obviously hasn't paid much attention to California public affairs. ... For 20 years, I have fought to protect sovereignty on reservation lands, well before there was gaming.

"If they wanted to hurt Schwarzenegger, they would be making an independent expenditure to hurt Schwarzenegger, and Lord knows there's plenty they could hurt him with."

Assemblyman John Benoit, R-Palm Desert, a Schwarzenegger supporter, told the Riverside Press-Enterprise: "I think the idea of divide and conquer is a tried and true tactic. I can't speak for the Indians, but if there was somebody looking to help Bustamante, this would be the way to do it."


TOPICS: Editorial; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: bustamante; contribution; indians; mcclintock; mcwampum; schwarzenegger; tribal
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To: 68 grunt
Answer the question and it's over. Would you vote for Arnold if he were a Democrat? It's the question that EVERY Arnold supporter has avoided.
341 posted on 09/20/2003 5:02:27 PM PDT by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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To: EternalVigilance
"But you're allowing yourself to get sucked into using the insults of the left on conservatives."

I have not insulted conservatives. I am an engineer. I think I have some sense of reality:) A candidate must have some amount of cross-over votes to get elected state-wide here. I have said McC has the tech knowledge to help Arnold in getting us out of bankruptcy. About 20% of the voters in this state are wackos and kooks. About 35% are GOP. Another 40% are RATS. You need to tear off just enough of those votes to get elected. A solid conservative in this area doesn't relate to all of the land mass this state happens to have. We actually should divide this state into 2!

342 posted on 09/20/2003 5:02:42 PM PDT by BobS
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To: EternalVigilance
no links, no hard data...
how do we know you are not making it up?

you think your WORD is good enough for us all?
Whatever you say... ev...
343 posted on 09/20/2003 5:02:59 PM PDT by Robert_Paulson2 (robert the rino...)
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To: 68 grunt
That, sir or madam, was over the line.

Arnold supports legalizing "domestic partnerships."

Surely you weren't ignorant of that?

344 posted on 09/20/2003 5:03:55 PM PDT by Roscoe
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To: Robert_Paulson2
So, you're saying that Warren Buffett and Dick Riordon gave no money to RATs?

I made it up?

You remind me of the guy who posted a link the other night to the GOP platform claiming it would somehow prove Arnold's credentials as a Republican.

Even after it was shown to him clearly and unequivocally that Arnold is on the enemy's side on a number of fundamental issues, he couldn't just bag it--he kept arguing the point for hours.
345 posted on 09/20/2003 5:04:35 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Right is right...)
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To: BobS
Dividing the state in two isn't a bad idea--maybe we could get 2 Republican Senators to balance out the 2 whackjobs you've got now. ;-)

But the fact is that McClintock got more crossover votes last year than people realize. There are still the same types out there that we once called 'Reagan Democrats', and alot of Independents are of similiar mind.

But the AS candidacy is skewing everything. If it wasn't for Arnold, the broad, policy-based offensive that has been run by Tom would have a clear shot at defeating the Davis machine...tapping into the disgust with what the left has done to California.
346 posted on 09/20/2003 5:09:29 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Right is right...)
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To: Roscoe
((( crickets )))
347 posted on 09/20/2003 5:09:56 PM PDT by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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To: EternalVigilance
You're about fifty apologies and retractions away from being in a position to ask for anything but forgiveness.

Dan
348 posted on 09/20/2003 5:09:57 PM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: BibChr
I knew you wouldn't answer.

Any self-justification you could offer could be used just as readily to justify a vote for Hillary.

And I don't owe you a single apology.
349 posted on 09/20/2003 5:11:25 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Right is right...)
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To: BibChr
Don't owe you any retractions, either.
350 posted on 09/20/2003 5:12:20 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Right is right...)
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To: AppyPappy
Did you really miss my previous two answers?
351 posted on 09/20/2003 5:22:01 PM PDT by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 0311, 68-69)
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To: 68 grunt
How hard is it to say yes or no? Would you vote for Arnold is he were a Democrat?
352 posted on 09/20/2003 5:23:24 PM PDT by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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To: AppyPappy
Hey virginian, some of us have lives, and you should excercise patience. Have your read my responses to your stupid hypothetical?
353 posted on 09/20/2003 5:23:51 PM PDT by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 0311, 68-69)
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To: EternalVigilance
you said Hillary/Arnold was a conneciton.
I WOULD have found specifics on that very interesting.

I see now it was just another of your over the top, exaggerations (for want of a more genteel word). Sorry< I thought you might have actually had an article or two on this... instead you give me a "trust me, I am a 'true conservative'" as your source.

Whatever EV... whatever....
354 posted on 09/20/2003 5:24:17 PM PDT by Robert_Paulson2 (robert the rino...)
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To: 68 grunt

How hard is it to say yes or no? Would you vote for Arnold if he were a Democrat?
355 posted on 09/20/2003 5:25:50 PM PDT by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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To: EternalVigilance
OK. We at least agree we have wackjob wenches for senators:):) So let me explain the little 'ol "=" sign: 50.000001% of [wackos + kooks + GOP + RATs] = Victory!
356 posted on 09/20/2003 5:26:35 PM PDT by BobS
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To: Roscoe
Sir, or madam, I also support domestic partnerships. I also do not support gay marriage. Marriage should be between a man and a woman. Homosexuals must not be deprived of basic human rights and I see domestic partnerships as such. Do you have a problem with my tolerance? With my recognition of basic rights?
357 posted on 09/20/2003 5:26:48 PM PDT by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 0311, 68-69)
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To: Robert_Paulson2
Whatever, huh...?

Are you saying that Buffett, Arnold's best bud and mentor, hasn't given money to Hillary? That Dickie Riordon hasn't help finance RATs?

Are you the only person on FR who hasn't seen the data from the FEC?

Everyone here but you knows the facts in this case...and like I told you, I don't waste my time chasing links on common knowledge for leftists who want conservatives out of the GOP.



358 posted on 09/20/2003 5:28:23 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Right is right...)
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To: AppyPappy
Okay, you are very dim, so I'll explain what 'when that pig flies I will vote for that pig' means. It means yes. Sheeees
359 posted on 09/20/2003 5:29:43 PM PDT by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 0311, 68-69)
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To: AppyPappy
"Would you vote for Arnold if he were a Democrat?"

Would you vote for Jesse Ventura since he's a SkinHead?

360 posted on 09/20/2003 5:29:50 PM PDT by BobS
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